Who do we like the least?

[lynchbhoy]

. However, as a teenager growing up in the Troubles, faced daily with Gerry Adams et alia using guns and bombs in the "Armed Struggle", we knew exactly who the "Brits" in the accompanying cry of "Brits Out" were then: it meant us.

Actually it didnt.
Your whole argument is based on a false sense of exclusion if this is the case.

I will say again, that if any protestant wanted to join/play hurling at Kevin Lynch's Hurling club in dungiven county Derry, they would be welcomed.
they would be made to feel VERY welcome.
the issue then is whether someone from that community would want to join.
Ok so the name puts them off.
Funnily similar names do not put off too many nationalists from attending 'Queens University' , Royal Victoria etc etc

if you want to find offense you will - which is what your postulation and 'debate' actually just is.

OK so the name doesnt fit, how about you go to any GAA club with some Irish name - Ruari Og in Cushendall ...
Would you go then?
The GAA does not exclude anyone, the last traces of that were discarded with the rule banning british army and security forces being deleted a couple of years ago.
you are going around in circles but avoiding the real crux that is - people like you will never want to join the GAA as you will alwsys find faults and move the goalposts - as witnessed by all in the dup's goalpost moving in the assembly 'talks'.
thats in the nature of a lot of these people folks.
Dont be taken in.

It seems to me that what you are saying is that you, as a Nationalist, reserve the right to determine what you mean by epithets such as "Brits", but I, as a Unionist, am not accorded the same privilege when using the same term. Thank You.

As for the Kevin Lynch club (an example of a less "liberal-minded" club chosen by Max Mill, rather than me, btw), I have no reason to suppose you're wrong about the welcome I would receive. However, I have no more wish to be associated in any way with a GAA club named in honour of an INLA man, than I would a soccer club named in "honour" of a UDA man. And just in case there should be any doubt, yes, that is precisely because "the name puts [me] off".

Your examples of QUB or the Royal Victoria are mere "whataboutery".  I no more object to these than I do to the naming of O'Connell Street or Parnell Square in Dublin. The naming of institutions such as these are solely a political matter, to be determined by political authorities. I fail to see what they have to do with sport, which is what we are discussing here (or more particularly, the mixing of sport and politics, as practised by the GAA)

Nor have I anywhere in my (lengthy!) posts expressed any objection whatever to the Irish language; how could any reasonable person take exception to a Gaelic Athletic club having, ahem,  a Gaelic name? As it happens, many NI soccer clubs have Irish names (albeit Anglicised), like Portadown, Glenavon, Derry City, Ballymena United etc etc!

And while the GAA does not specifically exclude anyone (bar those who might wish to rent their facilities for certain "foreign" games, unlike e.g. rugby or soccer  ), it does deter many by its insistence in retaining a political, as well as a sporting ethos, unlike just about every other sporting organisation in Ireland.

As for Irish Unionists consistently "moving the goalposts" in order to justify not joining in GAA, I have consistently said that my objection is simply to the GAA's insistence on mixing the political with what I believe should solely be sporting matters. But if you don't believe me, then call my bluff: if you drop the politics, see then whether I drop the objections!

As for "the dup's goalpost moving in the assembly 'talks'.", where, other than in a light-hearted aside to Mayo4Sam, did I even mention, never mind endorse, anything to do with the DUP in this debate? This is more "whataboutery" from you, I'm afraid, and frankly, I think it's pathetic.

again 100% wrong and your brassed neck is something else
you are trying to tell us what WE (ie nationalists/republicans etc) meant when uttering the phrase 'brits out'

thats the good old unionist 'tell them what they should think' routine.
as for your charges of whataboutery - facile cries to lessen the MO of you and your type.

You want to be offended and thats about it.There is no politics in the Gaelic sport ( though sports people appear in politics)
Would you be offended in joining a GAA club with a harmless name?
I believe you would always find a reason not to, but lying on here would suit your purpose.
Has done so far anyhow.
I am prepared for more forked tongue reality dodging responses from you...

so back to the main point
for those who voted that they disliked 'the brits'
they mean british army , british(english) establishment and government

not the people living in the six counties - whatever their persuasion.

so your argument against this is pointless and idiotic.
You may not like it, but you cannot tell people what they mean whan they say 'brits'.

[dubnut]

"for those who voted that they disliked 'the brits'
they mean british army , british(english) establishment and government"

I voted "the brits" and agree 100% with the above.
Or did I mean something else Evil Genius? Please let me know. 

[ONeill]

I voted for the Brits thinking it was the music awards. Lost respect for them when Culture Club lifted only 2 awards in 1984.

[Mayo4Sam]