20 years of the PSNI

[seafoid]

Plus policy wise they have  been moving steadily to the centre.

[Applesisapples]

Nolan has found away to make Byrne's departure all SF's fault.

[yellowcard]

Nolan has found away to make Byrne's departure all SF's fault.

That show is so far gone that it has backfired on the official 'NI' establishment. The more Nolan hammers SF the more it will drive support for them because most people just see it for what it is, a punch and judy show with manufactured outrage, fringe hardline contributors and staged callers. It's a bit like Jamie Bryson, its now become one of SFs greatest vote winners.   

[tbrick18]

Nolan has found away to make Byrne's departure all SF's fault.

That show is so far gone that it has backfired on the official 'NI' establishment. The more Nolan hammers SF the more it will drive support for them because most people just see it for what it is, a punch and judy show with manufactured outrage, fringe hardline contributors and staged callers. It's a bit like Jamie Bryson, its now become one of SFs greatest vote winners.

I stopped listening to Nolan a long time ago, but I think you are right on this one.
The more hardline, anti-SF, anti-Nationalist tripe they spout, the more determined nationalists will be to keep on voting. It feels like a death cry from unionism from what I hear.

[Applesisapples]

Nolan has found away to make Byrne's departure all SF's fault.

That show is so far gone that it has backfired on the official 'NI' establishment. The more Nolan hammers SF the more it will drive support for them because most people just see it for what it is, a punch and judy show with manufactured outrage, fringe hardline contributors and staged callers. It's a bit like Jamie Bryson, its now become one of SFs greatest vote winners.

I generally don't listen to it, it happened to be on for a time this morning in the office. It was interesting that when he tried to get both Mike Nesbitt and Nuala Mcallister to point the finger at SF both refused to confirm that Byrne was saying that SF made a threat.
The debate on the PSNI's future direction may only be starting and perhaps 15 years too late. But it needs to examine the culture that makes it uncomfortable for most serving Catholic Officers and how that needs to change to reflect the diversity of NI society. But as I have said previously our community needs to be more whole hearted in it's support for Catholic's who join the police and SF need to lead that.

I stopped listening to Nolan a long time ago, but I think you are right on this one.
The more hardline, anti-SF, anti-Nationalist tripe they spout, the more determined nationalists will be to keep on voting. It feels like a death cry from unionism from what I hear.

[Sportacus]

You have to laugh at people like Trevor Clarke, do literally nothing for months and months, and then out on the tv making big statements.  A complete amateur chancer acting the big man overseeing people in professional life.  And no better on any side. Complete bunch of bluffers.

[NAG1]

You have to laugh at people like Trevor Clarke, do literally nothing for months and months, and then out on the tv making big statements.  A complete amateur chancer acting the big man overseeing people in professional life.  And no better on any side. Complete bunch of bluffers.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2023/06/15/news/dup_councillor_suspended_over_attendance_at_meeting_addressed_by_mla_trevor_clarke-3354277/

Common theme with these lads 

[LC]

You have to laugh at people like Trevor Clarke, do literally nothing for months and months, and then out on the tv making big statements.  A complete amateur chancer acting the big man overseeing people in professional life.  And no better on any side. Complete bunch of bluffers.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2023/06/15/news/dup_councillor_suspended_over_attendance_at_meeting_addressed_by_mla_trevor_clarke-3354277/

Common theme with these lads 

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[Snapchap]

In the proceedings of this case, it transpired that the PSNI not only was unlawfully spying on these two journalists who were investigating state collusion, but that it was also spying on 320 other journalists and 500 lawyers over a 14 year period. In a place the size of the north, those are staggering numbers. Even the BBC's William Crawley on Talkback remarked that police spying on journliasts is the sort of thing you'd expect to have seen in the 70's or 80's in Eastern European countries. Turns out the PSNI have been doing it on an absolutely industrial scale.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2q08302lo
(Police unlawfully spied on journalists, court finds)

[AustinPowers]

In the proceedings of this case, it transpired that the PSNI not only was unlawfully spying on these two journalists who were investigating state collusion, but that it was also spying on 320 other journalists and 500 lawyers over a 14 year period. In a place the size of the north, those are staggering numbers. Even the BBC's William Crawley on Talkback remarked that police spying on journliasts is the sort of thing you'd expect to have seen in the 70's or 80's in Eastern European countries. Turns out the PSNI have been doing it on an absolutely industrial scale.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2q08302lo
(Police unlawfully spied on journalists, court finds)

It's a pity they  didn't  put as much effort into  arresting the  Loughinisland murderers.  But we all know why  that is.

[johnnycool]

In the proceedings of this case, it transpired that the PSNI not only was unlawfully spying on these two journalists who were investigating state collusion, but that it was also spying on 320 other journalists and 500 lawyers over a 14 year period. In a place the size of the north, those are staggering numbers. Even the BBC's William Crawley on Talkback remarked that police spying on journliasts is the sort of thing you'd expect to have seen in the 70's or 80's in Eastern European countries. Turns out the PSNI have been doing it on an absolutely industrial scale.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2q08302lo
(Police unlawfully spied on journalists, court finds)

This is the biggest issue I have with the PSNI.

If they're not the old RUC in a new uniform, they should have emptied out all that old Unionist mindset, but they didn't and sadly it's still continues today.

I don't know what happened that wee lad Donahoe, but their behaviour and that of the Coroner gives you serious doubts about how accidental his death was and who may be involved!

[brokencrossbar1]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewxyevjvdyo

A Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) officer is to be charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice, the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) has announced.

It follows an investigation by the PSNI's anti-corruption unit.
It relates to events following an incident in February 2021 outside the Sean Graham betting shop on the Ormeau Road in south Belfast.
There was an altercation as officers arrived at a troubles memorial event being held during Covid-19 restrictions.

The PPS said the investigation examined an allegation the officer "had been involved in the generation of a false threat report intended to support an application to court for a witness anonymity order".
He has been informed of the decision to prosecute.
It is understood his duty status is being reviewed as a result.
The PPS said court papers were being finalised and a date for his first appearance "will be generated in due course".
It added it would not be making any further comment as it could prejudice his trial by jury at Crown Court.
Ormeau Road incident
The PPS also announced a civilian reported for assault on police during the Ormeau Road incident would not be charged due to insufficient evidence.
The PPS said: "A decision on the assault file had to be delayed pending an outcome of the anti-corruption unit investigation.
"This was because the allegations under investigation were relevant to the prospects of conviction on the assault file."
The PPS had previously decided not to prosecute two junior officers who had been investigated over assault allegations.

Internal disciplinary action taken against them was later declared unlawful, causing a policing crisis which led to Simon Byrne resigning as chief constable.