The Great Windows Outage of 2024

Started by RedHand88, July 19, 2024, 08:47:27 AM

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RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Orior on July 19, 2024, 08:46:57 PMIs V&V validation & verification?

I assume they also have a CAB - Change Advisory Board.

Yup - well - pedantically Verification & Validation 'cos verification should always come first of the two.

Crowdstrike seemingly have done neither well as both check gates should have caught this.
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RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.
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Tony Baloney

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board. You would have to imagine this kind of software update is rolled out very regularly by a company, and probably product, like this.
Complaceny combined with cost cutting dressed up us a productivity/efficiency/lean programme will be in there somewhere.

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Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2024, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board. You would have to imagine this kind of software update is rolled out very regularly by a company, and probably product, like this.
Complaceny combined with cost cutting dressed up us a productivity/efficiency/lean programme will be in there somewhere.

"Shareholder value"

Well, value your f**king shares today lads.


Uhh, actually, just looking - their shareprice has been diving since July 15th - so much so that todays disaster hasn't actually changed its general direction much.

What the insider trading f**k?!?!?
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armaghniac

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:07:27 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2024, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board. You would have to imagine this kind of software update is rolled out very regularly by a company, and probably product, like this.
Complaceny combined with cost cutting dressed up us a productivity/efficiency/lean programme will be in there somewhere.

"Shareholder value"

Well, value your f**king shares today lads.



CrowdStrike : Software company
CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc. is an American cybersecurity technology company based in Austin, Texas. It provides cloud workload protection and endpoint security, threat intelligence, and cyberattack response services.
Stock price: CRWD (NASDAQ) US$304.96 -38.09 (-11.10%)
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imtommygunn

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.

ONeill

There'll be a big solar flare sometime soon that'll knock us for six. Get some cash in the attic.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

imtommygunn

Ah sure as long as it gets here before trump gets back in that's grand.

thebigfella

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.


There is so many people working in technical roles that are incompetent full stop.

It's easy to blame managers and c suite but I'd say 50% (conservative estimate) of the tech resources I've come across on large scale programmes just are no where near good enough.

armaghniac

Quote from: thebigfella on July 19, 2024, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.


There is so many people working in technical roles that are incompetent full stop.

It's easy to blame managers and c suite but I'd say 50% (conservative estimate) of the tech resources I've come across on large scale programmes just are no where near good enough.

It is hard to get people. But surely Windows is partly to blame here, you can update a driver and so prevent the machine booting. A more robust system would sandbox the new driver in some way until it could be validated and only then add it to the system. I suppose Cloudstrike could have designed their updates along those lines, but the OS does not enforce it.
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thebigfella

Quote from: armaghniac on July 19, 2024, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on July 19, 2024, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 19, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2024, 09:34:31 PMSoftware testing is a very underinvested in function across the board.
Its also the one that suffers most from every other bit of the task sliding to the right.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.

There are so many people in the software business at management and cxo levels dictating what is going on without having the first clue about software of any description. The most important stuff falls by the wayside.

Share price was down to 291 earlier so they have done alright considering.

There was a big Reddit post from yesterday about how shit crowdstrike are... Just one post but still funny timing.


There is so many people working in technical roles that are incompetent full stop.

It's easy to blame managers and c suite but I'd say 50% (conservative estimate) of the tech resources I've come across on large scale programmes just are no where near good enough.

It is hard to get people. But surely Windows is partly to blame here, you can update a driver and so prevent the machine booting. A more robust system would sandbox the new driver in some way until it could be validated and only then add it to the system. I suppose Cloudstrike could have designed their updates along those lines, but the OS does not enforce it.

It's not though. Now it is hard to identify competent people in a market saturated with mediocrity.


imtommygunn

It is easy but in a lot of cases accurate.

Definitely where I work there's not much willingness to invest in technical talent.

The other thing is this is not a failure of 1 technical person it's a process problem from start to finish. There is probably technical and management and cost cutting etc etc in there so all at play.

Also windows as armaghniac says above and a long list really.

Milltown Row2

I'd someone in with me yesterday, said he sells cloudstrike, it wiped off 3000 contracts, thinks they'll find it hard to recover.

But was reading there's not that many competitors? Would find that strange enough
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RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2024, 08:18:36 AMI'd someone in with me yesterday, said he sells cloudstrike, it wiped off 3000 contracts, thinks they'll find it hard to recover.

I'd be very surprised if they recover.

Would you trust them with any mission critical systems again?
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armaghniac

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