Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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Truthsayer

Not sure if that Norway story is true. They have indicated that Israel shouldn't be playing I think... though an anti-Fascist social media account has posted a couple of times that Norway is not refusing to play Israel and that the story is "fake news" as they say...

AustinPowers

I hope  the Norway thing   Is true ,  but in reality it's probably only  going to be  those in Israel's group that might  make a fuss (even that is unlikely).

It needs to be a European-wide  thing, and that won't  clearly happen. If Norway  do make a fuss of it , no doubt UEFA will  say "on yer bike then"

Then, instead of Israel becoming the pariah state,  it will be Norway (along with Ireland)

Truthsayer

Quote from: AustinPowers on December 19, 2024, 11:46:48 AMI hope  the Norway thing   Is true ,  but in reality it's probably only  going to be  those in Israel's group that might  make a fuss (even that is unlikely).

It needs to be a European-wide  thing, and that won't  clearly happen. If Norway  do make a fuss of it , no doubt UEFA will  say "on yer bike then"

Then, instead of Israel becoming the pariah state,  it will be Norway (along with Ireland)
Same as that... I certainly hope it's true but I doubt it. Israel needs to be treated as pariahs by the international community and this bullshit smashed that condemning genocide and landgrab is 'anti-semitic". 

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 19, 2024, 11:50:01 AMSame as that... I certainly hope it's true but I doubt it. Israel needs to be treated as pariahs by the international community and this bullshit smashed that condemning genocide and landgrab is 'anti-semitic". 

The tide does seem to be turning in that direction. Even in the US, support for Israel is no longer a bipartisan issue. The left is quickly turning away from the pro-Israel position, particularly among younger people, since they seem to be better informed about the history of it and are getting their news from sources that are not under the thumb of the pro-Israel lobby.

If that can happen in the US then it can happen anywhere.

Truthsayer

Brilliant albeit thoroughly depressing podcast this week from Joe Brolly & Dion Fanning calling out the 'anti-semetic' rhetoric Israel uses on anyone challenging its genocidal regime.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0TXf3aL7xwXkbWdDSdN5sr?si=r-PWVADHQy6V7IdPnl92Og&t=3593

trileacman

Quote from: theskull1 on December 19, 2024, 10:44:18 AMShouldn't our Catholic moral guardians be standing up more for humanity?

Its embarrassing is it not that a football association standing up to genocide in a meaningful way is the headline whilst western governments and faiths keep their heads down.

This is complete and utter bollocks. The Catholic Church through it's charities has done more than any other Irish organisation in Gaza for the last 20 years. Trocaire uses millions of its donation every year to help people in the middle east and has done consistently for the last 2 decades.

People seem to think talking shite on twitter or message boards counts as helping the Palestinians. I'd like to see how much these people contribute financially to helping out innocent Palestinians. This year they paid for 49 court cases to defend 1500 Palestinians who have been dispossessed by illegal Israeli settlement. They're also provided humanitarian assistance to 60,000 Palestinians despite how incredibly difficult the Israeli's make it for them.

Name an Irish organisation that has contributed as much as this to the Palestinians? The Catholic Church regularly comes in for kicking in the Irish media, some of it certainly justified, but in no way can they be criticised for the assistance they have provided in this case.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
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Truthsayer

The Pope using the word 'genocide' in Gaza in his Christmas message would be huge statement.