The far right

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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.

Not weird at all

2 reasons why it's important

(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.

(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.

If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees

1. If you have information on the arson, ring the Gardai.

2. This is entirely false.

And your conclusion is based on what you know to be a lie. That Trump shite doesn't work here

whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 12:31:14 AM
Quote from: whitey on November 20, 2025, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 20, 2025, 08:17:41 PMHe might get the probation act. This is getting demeaning now. What a wierd hill to die on.

Not weird at all

2 reasons why it's important

(1) The setting of the fire at the IPAS Center was down to a dispute between 2 criminal gangs not some "far right" ideology.

(2) Gangsters/convicted criminals were able to pass the vetting required to run an IPAS center where they received €10 M in taxpayer funded reimbursement.

If the government can't vet Irish people to run an IPAS center how the heck can we trust them to vet the incoming asylum seekers/refugees

1. If you have information on the arson, ring the Gardai.

2. This is entirely false.

And your conclusion is based on what you know to be a lie. That Trump shite doesn't work here

This is entirely true

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41736747.html

"Recent media reports suggest that the owner of this company, Secure Accommodation Management, has been paid €10.2m since it was set up in September 2022. Indeed, the Department of Children, Disability and Equality highlighted its huge profits for 2023."

https://sinnfein.ie/news/cab-naming-of-ipas-provider-shows-urgent-need-for-full-examination-of-profiteering-in-provision-of-ipas-accommodation-matt-carthy-td/

Sinn Féin spokesperson on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration, Matt Carthy TD, has said that reports in the Sunday World over the weekend that the government has paid millions for IPAS accommodation, to a company owned by a man currently awaiting sentencing for violent disorder and named by the Criminal Assets Bureau as being linked to the Drogheda gang feud were deeply worrying.

Baile Brigín 2

And around we go.

He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.

CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.

Did you even read the Sunday World article?


Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.

Rossfan

I see Maria Steen rules out running in the Dublin Central by election.
Iona Institute obviously not going to stump up for a campaign?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:46:20 AMAnd around we go.

He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.

CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.

Did you even read the Sunday World article?


Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.

He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public

I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price

Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie

Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie

And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on Today at 11:40:04 AMI see Maria Steen rules out running in the Dublin Central by election.
Iona Institute obviously not going to stump up for a campaign?
She has no interest in actually being a politician. Work involved in running, work involved in being. The whole presidential thing was a stunt

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: whitey on Today at 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:46:20 AMAnd around we go.

He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.

CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.

Did you even read the Sunday World article?


Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.

He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public

I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price

Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie

Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie

And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative

He stepped away in July. He never owned the company. So false.

No he wasn't. Your memory is false.

Accepted, but the Dail language is all alledged. They didn't outright say it, but yes, they alluded to it.

He hasn't yet been convicted of the motoring offence. He pled guilty, yes, but there is no guarantees on sentence. He might get a slap on the wrist for a first offence.

So you haven't read the newspaper report, and certainly haven't read the CAB piece. But you rumble on.

I'm out. You are closing a false narrative to justify your prejudices. Facts won't change that.

whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 12:33:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:46:20 AMAnd around we go.

He doesn't own the company. You admitted that yourself.

CAB didn't 'link him' to anything. He was listed as one of a dozen witnesses to a shooting. And the Sunday World didn't claim that.

Did you even read the Sunday World article?


Again, you are allowed think for yourself. But you have accepted a far right talking point, the centers are criminal enterprises, and worked back using falsehoods.

He was a director of the company when they won the contract and "stepped back" when it became public

I watched a Sunday World video clip and (I'm going from memory here)-he and others with him were described as known criminals with close links to Cornelius Price

Yesterday you were claiming that no one called him a gangster and a criminal-that was a lie

Yesterday you claimed he had never been convicted of anything-and that was a lie

And you're lying again here trying to prop up a false narrative

He stepped away in July. He never owned the company. So false.

No he wasn't. Your memory is false.

Accepted, but the Dail language is all alledged. They didn't outright say it, but yes, they alluded to it.

He hasn't yet been convicted of the motoring offence. He pled guilty, yes, but there is no guarantees on sentence. He might get a slap on the wrist for a first offence.

So you haven't read the newspaper report, and certainly haven't read the CAB piece. But you rumble on.

I'm out. You are closing a false narrative to justify your prejudices. Facts won't change that.

Violent disorder is a now a motoring offense

Here's what Matt Carty said-

"In July I raised concerns about Secure Accommodation Limited and how we could have IPAS accommodation being provided by a company where a person who had been a director was linked to gangland criminality.  This followed reports in the Sunday World that the government had paid millions for IPAS accommodation to a company owned by a man who the Criminal Assets Bureau had linked to the Drogheda gang feud."



But as I always say-believe whatever you want