The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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Rossfan

Like all Empires it's beginning the process of dying from within.
If you wrote a novel with a Trump type becoming a President you'd be laughed off the scene by publishers.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

johnnycool

Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2025, 12:15:08 PMLike all Empires it's beginning the process of dying from within.
If you wrote a novel with a Trump type becoming a President you'd be laughed off the scene by publishers.

It might be a slow death and it won't be pretty.

Is there any sane people in positions of power over there?

trueblue1234

Quote from: blanketattack on September 19, 2025, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 13, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 13, 2025, 07:40:49 PMHave the Democrats just lost the 2028 presidential election?
How so?

The cheerleading after Kirk's death would have tilted the moderates away.
It'll depend on the economy/inflation. I expect either high inflation or a recession or even both in 2028.

I don't know enough about how things are being viewed over there, but I think there will equally as many people disgusted at the reaction of the right afterwards in trying to weaponise his murder. It's been pretty horrific tbh and I'd say some middle of the road voters won't take kindly to the attempted censorship of the media especially when you hear the cr@p Trump is coming out with now threatening TV licences.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Eamonnca1

Quote from: johnnycool on September 19, 2025, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2025, 12:15:08 PMLike all Empires it's beginning the process of dying from within.
If you wrote a novel with a Trump type becoming a President you'd be laughed off the scene by publishers.

It might be a slow death and it won't be pretty.

Is there any sane people in positions of power over there?

Blue state governors like Newsom.

Blue city mayors are quite powerful.

The Supreme Court, even one as blatantly stacked as this one, is starting to look sane in comparison to the sick twisted demagogues jockeying for position to take over when the inevitable happens and Trump drops dead.

The Chair of the Fed is pretty unassailable, he's kept in position by a complex voting system of regional federal reserve banks. It's highly unlikely that the MAGAs would be able to move all of the levers of power that'd be necessary to oust him, and if they did then it'd be a catastrophe for the world economy. You'd have to forget about the dollar as the world's reserve currency if the adult were no longer in control of it, and the US would lose its ability to live up to its neck in debt. Very hard to see that happening.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: blanketattack on September 19, 2025, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 13, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 13, 2025, 07:40:49 PMHave the Democrats just lost the 2028 presidential election?
How so?

The cheerleading after Kirk's death would have tilted the moderates away.
It'll depend on the economy/inflation. I expect either high inflation or a recession or even both in 2028.


Not sure what you mean by cheerleading, I can't say I've seen much of that outside of some social media memes.

You might be right about the inflation/recession thing. For all we know we might be in recession now.

I'd say the mass doxxing campaign by the right is probably going to motivate a lot of Dems to get active and organize to take things back in 2028, so that could backfire.

Texas will be the state to watch in 2028. It's on track to turn blue around that time. There will be a lot of voter suppression and disenfranchisement by the right to prevent that from happening, but there are limits to how much of a difference that's going to make in the face of sheer demographic change.


DaleCooper

Its hard to predict a fairly chaotic situation. As the death of Kirk was announced [as it happened] the GOP called for a minute silence and Democrats started shouting/ basically saying FU.

Democrat leadership are terrified of their own base and don't know what to do IMO. The Israel issue has caused them severe headaches.

There was a resolution passed to condemn political violence and approx 90 democrats voted against it.

This is shockingly bad politics , everyone is on the escalation ladder now.