A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

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Hand of God

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 05, 2025, 10:20:43 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 27, 2025, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 27, 2025, 10:25:43 AMWho'd need Sinn Féin in an (imaginary at present) All Ireland entity? What would they stand for?
Would there be an "Ulster British" Party?
The new AI won't be any extension of Crossmaglen.

Last GE here had Centrists (FF, FG, gene pool Independents, Marian Harkin etc) getting around 50% of the vote.
Real Left Wingers c25% at most.
Sinn Féin and other populists c20%.






Your world view is pretty wild.

You don't seriously believe that FF are "centrists" and SF are "populists"? It's just another smear attack isn't it.

FF are the party of Bertie Ahern, Charlie Haughey, P Flynn, Liam Lawlor etc - they are a party who stand for nothing else than getting themselves in power and staying. The party who wouldn't go into govt with FG and then did - that's populism, you don't seem to understand the term. FF are the most populist party in the history of the state. Lies after broken promises, all to get power. Telling people what they want to hear and the rolling back in it once you have power is the focal point of populism. FF lie to the electorate and mislead them without any sense of accountability of it.

FG on the other hand have their origins in far right fascism.

Just stop smearing, it makes look you like an uneducated slabberer.

Had a little chuckle at this.

Here is the short definition of populism for you, since you're as clueless about that as you are on about every topic you post on:

'a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.'



A read of this might educate. Populism is what the right do. The right is the spectrum FF and FG sit on. FF and FG immediately coming out and dog whistling the far right after a bad election is a clear example of populism. Telling the people what they want to hear with zero sincerity on the matter. They routinely lie to the electorate for votes.

Banks of the Bann

Populism is not confined to any particular side of the left-right divide.

What you've described above is telling lies. Also not confined to any particular side.

I've already provided you with an accurate definition. I'm not surprised though that you ignore that and conjure up any old shite that comes into your head. It's what you do in pretty much any topic you 'debate' on.

armaghniac

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 09, 2025, 11:44:28 AMPopulism is not confined to any particular side of the left-right divide.

Populism is inevitable, you have to get elected.
But there should be no toleration of falsehoods from any source.
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DaleCooper

Yup. Mass democracy is populism incarnate which is why every intelligent mind in history DESPISED it.

armaghniac

Quote from: DaleCooper on November 09, 2025, 10:05:10 PMYup. Mass democracy is populism incarnate which is why every intelligent mind in history DESPISED it.

As Winston Churchill rephrased it
Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
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