Sam Maguire / Anglo Celt

[ildanach]

Having contested ?two all ireland finals in 04 and 06 a league final in 07 and a league semifinal in 06 and 05 you would imagine we would be higher all right.

sorry frank
contested took part  in the parade in 2 all ireland finals  in 04 and 06 

[sammymaguire]

Glad that topic stirred up a bit of debate amongst the GAA fraternity far and wide, many passionate and loyal views among them 

I think its still fair to say that if the Ulster teams don't take it out of each other up north (like the way Tyrone only played Down this year ((and got beaten)) and went all the way) where the rest of the teams more or less beat each other; Monaghan played 3, Armagh played 4 games, Fermanagh played 4 games v Ulster teams, Down played 3 v Ulster teams, all went out to inferior teams apart from Monaghan, in my opinion (I know some won't like that and will feel that they deserved what they got cos they got beat) Derry put out by an Ulster team, Donegal put out by an Ulster team, Cavan should have beaten Kildare but were hit by a sucker punch with the last kick of the ball and only 1 team was involved in the Tommy Murphy Cup and Antrim won that!!!

ULADH ABU

[Lazer]

kildare and down are not ahead of fermanagh. derry could be included ahead of either of them too.

Kildare 0-11, fermanagh 0-5

And, are Derry not national league champion?

What exactly do fermagh have that mean they deserve to be ahead of Down?

This?

20 Apr 2008
Down 0-13 - 1-12 Fermanagh

or this?

Allianz National Football League Division 3
  Team              P W D L  F     A   +/- Pts
1 Fermanagh      7 6 1 0 8-80 4-75 17 13
2 Wexford         7 5 2 0 9-80 4-71 24 12
3 Down             7 4 0 3 7-89 10-73 7 8

Down beat the All-Ireland champions, nothing can take away from that fact!

[nrico2006]

Yeah Down did, sure Andy Murray recently beat Rafael Nadal so he must be the best tennis player in the world now!

[sammymaguire]

Does anyone reckon Tyrone will win it next year? have Kerry come to the end of their amazing run over the last 5 years? Will we see any other team come to the fore apart from the usual suspects following Fermanagh and Wexford's good showing this season?