Dr Scully found not guilty

Started by seafoid, December 16, 2016, 12:27:14 PM

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seafoid

I hope she can get on with her life

Denn Forever

Bit  confliced about. the result.  8th ammendment referendum can't come quick enough
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

blast05

Quote from: Denn Forever on December 16, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
Bit  confliced about. the result.  8th ammendment referendum can't come quick enough

Do you know something that the rest of us don't ..... i.e.: that the child in question had a condition that was diagnosable in-utero ?
I interpret your comments to mean you would vote to ammend the 8th. If so, what is the landscape you want ? .... i.e.: where a mother is allowed abort her child because scans are showing its not perfect ?

AZOffaly

You also seem to assume Dr Scully would have aborted the child, if I'm reading your post correctly. Has she ever said that?

trileacman

I think it was the wrong decision. Sets the precedent that manslaugher is not manslaughter if you can garner enough sympathy.

I pity the position that Scully was left in but that does not excuse her actions.
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HiMucker

Quote from: trileacman on December 16, 2016, 05:50:53 PM
I think it was the wrong decision. Sets the precedent that manslaugher is not manslaughter if you can garner enough sympathy.

I pity the position that Scully was left in but that does not excuse her actions.
Id tend to disagree with you there based on this bit of evidence.   Could the jury not have determined that this was a doctor doing the very best she could in extraordinary circumstnaces?  Doing nothing could have been equally critical.   The court was also told that the only reason a doctor would administer more chloral hydrate would be if the anitial dose did not have the desired effect.  Sad case and you cant help but feel for the woman.



"He reminded the jury of the evidence of a retired consultant paediatrician, who was also a member of the Advisory Committee for Human Medicines, the national body that decides if drugs are safe and effective.

Dr Kevin Connolly had been asked about the high doses of chloral hydrate Ms Scully said she had given her daughter in a short timeframe.He referred to people, who metabolise drugs at different rates to most people in clinical trials.

"If Emily was one of those outliers, and it had been found she required more frequent or higher doses, then this was appropriate," he said.

He explained that Emily's body might have been able to handle an increasing dose up to a certain point but then became overwhelmed.

"That can happen, that the body can only take so much and then it's too much," he said."




trileacman

Quote from: HiMucker on December 16, 2016, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: trileacman on December 16, 2016, 05:50:53 PM
I think it was the wrong decision. Sets the precedent that manslaugher is not manslaughter if you can garner enough sympathy.

I pity the position that Scully was left in but that does not excuse her actions.
Id tend to disagree with you there based on this bit of evidence.   Could the jury not have determined that this was a doctor doing the very best she could in extraordinary circumstnaces?  Doing nothing could have been equally critical.   The court was also told that the only reason a doctor would administer more chloral hydrate would be if the anitial dose did not have the desired effect.  Sad case and you cant help but feel for the woman.



"He reminded the jury of the evidence of a retired consultant paediatrician, who was also a member of the Advisory Committee for Human Medicines, the national body that decides if drugs are safe and effective.

Dr Kevin Connolly had been asked about the high doses of chloral hydrate Ms Scully said she had given her daughter in a short timeframe.He referred to people, who metabolise drugs at different rates to most people in clinical trials.

"If Emily was one of those outliers, and it had been found she required more frequent or higher doses, then this was appropriate," he said.

He explained that Emily's body might have been able to handle an increasing dose up to a certain point but then became overwhelmed.

"That can happen, that the body can only take so much and then it's too much," he said."

All people metabolise drugs at different rates but I would accept this kind of mistake had she administered it to a stranger. But I'd say, and I may be wrong, that this was not Emily's first time to receive choral hydrate from her mother and as such she'd have had a fair idea of her tolerance for it.
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seafoid

A nurse gave evidence regarding early stage puberty onset and epilepsy for people like Emily. The brain was already very damaged. I think this was a more or less unique case.