Atlantic - documentary

[Hound]

I knew the EU had fcuked the fishing industry in ireland, but just not to that extent. Makes you wonder why Ireland would still want to remain in the Nazi Club. Is it any wonder the UK voted out. Time for the Irish people to demand their own referendum and get the feck out.

While the fishermen got fecked over royally, many other sectors did well out of the EU - agriculture being one example. Politically the farmers were far better connected than the fisherman, so got much better deals.

Although whether we should remain in the EU if UK leave is a legitimate question to ask. We could also be forced out if tax harmonisation of some sort if foisted upon us. I think we'll be better in if we can, but we'll need to set up alliances with others when the UK leaves, in particular the Scandinavians, to ensure Germany and France don't run it all for their own benefit. The latter two certainly seem to be using the tax controversies and the UK leaving as an opportunity to push their own agenda more forcibly.

[BennyCake]

I knew the EU had fcuked the fishing industry in ireland, but just not to that extent. Makes you wonder why Ireland would still want to remain in the Nazi Club. Is it any wonder the UK voted out. Time for the Irish people to demand their own referendum and get the feck out.

While the fishermen got fecked over royally, many other sectors did well out of the EU - agriculture being one example. Politically the farmers were far better connected than the fisherman, so got much better deals.

Although whether we should remain in the EU if UK leave is a legitimate question to ask. We could also be forced out if tax harmonisation of some sort if foisted upon us. I think we'll be better in if we can, but we'll need to set up alliances with others when the UK leaves, in particular the Scandinavians, to ensure Germany and France don't run it all for their own benefit. The latter two certainly seem to be using the tax controversies and the UK leaving as an opportunity to push their own agenda more forcibly.

The big farmers maybe. Most small farms have gone though. Small producers supplying small shops and markets are gone. Another thing that's wrong is the amount of food that can be grown here is imported from EU. Therefore making our growers irrelevant, apple growers, strawberries, potatoes, among them. All those jobs gone. Local producers fecked because of EU.

[magpie seanie]

I knew the EU had fcuked the fishing industry in ireland, but just not to that extent. Makes you wonder why Ireland would still want to remain in the Nazi Club. Is it any wonder the UK voted out. Time for the Irish people to demand their own referendum and get the feck out.

While the fishermen got fecked over royally, many other sectors did well out of the EU - agriculture being one example. Politically the farmers were far better connected than the fisherman, so got much better deals.

Although whether we should remain in the EU if UK leave is a legitimate question to ask. We could also be forced out if tax harmonisation of some sort if foisted upon us. I think we'll be better in if we can, but we'll need to set up alliances with others when the UK leaves, in particular the Scandinavians, to ensure Germany and France don't run it all for their own benefit. The latter two certainly seem to be using the tax controversies and the UK leaving as an opportunity to push their own agenda more forcibly.

The big farmers maybe. Most small farms have gone though. Small producers supplying small shops and markets are gone. Another thing that's wrong is the amount of food that can be grown here is imported from EU. Therefore making our growers irrelevant, apple growers, strawberries, potatoes, among them. All those jobs gone. Local producers fecked because of EU.

This is what we need here. A sensible discussion about our future and the pros and cons of our membership of the EU. Personally I think we need to look at all the options and make people aware there have been and are huge negatives to our membership. The general consensus here and certainly among the political ruling class is that it has been nothing but good.

I've always been sceptical. my Dad loves saying "there's no such thing as a free lunch" so I always wondered why we were getting these big structural funds. Obviously the spending power of the 4 million of us is pretty inconsequential in the greater scheme of things. It was the fishing they were paying us off for. I think the EU has been a zero sum gain for Ireland with one exception - our ability to attract large MNC's would not have been possible outside the EU. They're getting pissed off now because it's going on too long and they'll eventually bring in tax harmonisation. We cannot accept that at any price. Our relationship with Britain - for good or for bad - is crucial and we'll be very isolated when they leave if we cannot do our own special deal with them. They're feckers but they're better than Germany and France.