Should ould ones be allowed to continue voting?

[seafoid]

Kids should be taught in school that we are going through an economic meltdown, that RTE /BBC news is soma and that if they don't get organised the generation of their parents will shaft them.

[armaghniac]

Well the first Scottish indy ref was shafted by the over 60's oh and by all the English that live north of the border.

In the Brexit referendum they didn't allow the other EU citizens vote, except for Irish, Maltese and Cypriots, so they didn't have that problem. At least in Scotland the young people got out and voted.

[muppet]

True enough, the mainstream left and the right aren't what they used to be, certainly as intellectual movements it would seem.

I agree, but historically for the far left or far right to succeed, it would appear they must first silence anyone remotely intellectual.

[rosnarun]

while I recognize the OPs deep sarcasm the idea of excluding any one of age from voting is very dangerous talk ,
the remainers have shown themselves up to be elitist bullys. the cheek of looking for a referendum to be rerun the day after they were defeat beggars belief and the list of groups that were at fault shows That snobbish  mentality is alive and well in England,  just with new targets the old, the less well educated, the working classes ,  categorizing any one who didn't agree with them as racist shows their bullyboy tactics,
as for the hapless Scots wanting to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds , what exactly did they think was going to happen when they choose to remain under English rule?

[seafoid]

The referendum should have been binding only if confirmed in a second 6 months later. The brexiteers had no plan. It was all a big pass take

[general_lee]

as for the hapless Scots wanting to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds , what exactly did they think was going to happen when they choose to remain under English rule?

To be fair when Scotland voted No it was not in the full knowledge that they'd be voted out of Europe two years later. Even the Leave campaigners didn't see this coming so of course they are entitled to go for another indyref and I'd fully expect them to make the right decision this time.

[No wides]

The referendum should have been binding only if confirmed in a second 6 months later. The brexiteers had no plan. It was all a big pass take

What a load of horse shite - so would same apply if the remains won - or just keep going until you get the result you want - dry your f**king eyes, which must be sore searching the net for every article on the subject - are you an EU civil servant. 

[BennyCake]

The referendum should have been binding only if confirmed in a second 6 months later. The brexiteers had no plan. It was all a big pass take

Let's do the Lisbon treaty again then. It's been a few years. Let's see if people have changed their minds.

[No wides]

The referendum should have been binding only if confirmed in a second 6 months later. The brexiteers had no plan. It was all a big pass take

Let's do the Lisbon treaty again then. It's been a few years. Let's see if people have changed their minds.

Difference is this time the vote has had major global ramifications -  if the Brits voted to stay a) The renegotiation would go and b) realizing they had them over a barrel - it would be full on EU state, the British were the only real voice of reason, so to be fair the rest are probably glad they are out.

[foxcommander]

They've f**k all else to do except vote and bitch about politics and how things used to be better!

I assume you prefer a bunch of illiterate mouth breathers who listen spend their days glued to their smartphone, driving with headphones on and listening to Kanye to dictate policies.

And they voted in the worst president ever.

You seriously blaming millennials for Bush?

You know exactly who I'm talking about

[muppet]

while I recognize the OPs deep sarcasm the idea of excluding any one of age from voting is very dangerous talk ,
the remainers have shown themselves up to be elitist bullys. the cheek of looking for a referendum to be rerun the day after they were defeat beggars belief and the list of groups that were at fault shows That snobbish  mentality is alive and well in England,  just with new targets the old, the less well educated, the working classes ,  categorizing any one who didn't agree with them as racist shows their bullyboy tactics,
as for the hapless Scots wanting to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds , what exactly did they think was going to happen when they choose to remain under English rule?

Emm......

This petition for another vote was started by a Leave supporter who assumed he would lose: http://www.newstalk.com/Second-Brexit-referendum-petition-set-up-by-Leave-campaigner

The petition to have a second Brexit referendum was created online before the result on Friday.

The petition, which has now topped three million supporters, was set up by a leave campaigner a month ago when he thought his side would lose.

The UK voted to leave the EU by 51.9 to 48.1% in a national referendum.

Oliver Healey has disclosed that because there was "no guarantee of a leave victory at that time" he set up the petition "with the intention of making it harder for 'remain' to further shackle us to the EU".

In a Facebook post, the English Democrats member said he felt it was time to "clarify my position on the issue even if it looks bad" and stressed that the remain side had "hijacked" the petition on the government website.

He said "I am genuinely appalled by the behaviour of some of the remain campaign, how they are conducting themselves post-referendum not just with this petition but generally."


The above sums up this farcical situation better than anything else. This Leave campaigner wasn't happy with the democratic vote he thought he was going to get and so set up the petition to do it all again. Now he isn't happy that the Remain campaign are doing exactly as he intended to do.

[Eamonnca1]

You know exactly who I'm talking about

I think I do.

[muppet]

It is very striking the Republicans hold their enemies to very different standards than themselves.

How many Americans and others died because of firstly the WMDs lie, and secondly the pretence that Iraq was somehow connected to 911? Where is the Republican outrage at all of the US deaths? Were is the FBI on this?

Meanwhile back to Hillary and her emails, but of course not Rice or Powell's emails.

[foxcommander]

You know exactly who I'm talking about

I think I do.

Incorrect - I'll give you one more shot at it (hints: he wasn't born in the USA and his middle name is the same as a surname of an Iraqi dictator executed in 2006)