Referees panel 2016

Started by Kuwabatake Sanjuro, April 27, 2016, 09:11:46 PM

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Applesisapples

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2016, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 10, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/

Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Not strictly correct, umpires tend to be club mates/friends/family. Linesmen are referee's on the relevant panel. But he is correct you could count the number of good refs on one hand. Kiran on Sunday got key decisions wrong for both teams. He gave a free out at one stage in the last quarter when the Clare forward was clearly belted in the face and needed treatment, that should have been a 20m free which balanced out the softer one given to Waterford near the end. I don't think he unduly influenced the outcome which really was in the balance in the last 3 minutes. Over the course of the game he made poor decisions both ways but hurling is an incredibly hard game to referee particularly at the top level with the speed of the game. Southern officials tend to let more go to keep flow in the game and when you start down that road then not everyone is going to be happy. On the other hand blow every foul and managers, commentators, spectators and the hurlers on the ditch will bitch about the ref being whistle happy. But apply the rules consistently in hurling and the game will be stop start.

He was too far away to see that hit on the Clare lads helmet ..... but again not his fault as the ball was hammered up there 60 yards in a few seconds to get a good view of it.. Bolt would struggle  to keep up with hurling at that level.... considering it was a tough match I thought he did well.. he consulted lines men and umpires throughout the game and applied the rules as best he could .... hes not there to let the game flow, I feel as long as you are consistent for both teams then there really is no complaints from either team... I'd have sent off wee Davy though... he loses control too much
Would agree with you, but his umpires or one of the linesmen should have seen it, the point I was making was it balanced out.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2016, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 10, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 10, 2016, 01:43:13 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0510/787392-flynn-standard-of-gaa-referees-not-acceptable/

Interesting and truthful comment from Bernarf Flynn on ref standards
Not strictly correct, umpires tend to be club mates/friends/family. Linesmen are referee's on the relevant panel. But he is correct you could count the number of good refs on one hand. Kiran on Sunday got key decisions wrong for both teams. He gave a free out at one stage in the last quarter when the Clare forward was clearly belted in the face and needed treatment, that should have been a 20m free which balanced out the softer one given to Waterford near the end. I don't think he unduly influenced the outcome which really was in the balance in the last 3 minutes. Over the course of the game he made poor decisions both ways but hurling is an incredibly hard game to referee particularly at the top level with the speed of the game. Southern officials tend to let more go to keep flow in the game and when you start down that road then not everyone is going to be happy. On the other hand blow every foul and managers, commentators, spectators and the hurlers on the ditch will bitch about the ref being whistle happy. But apply the rules consistently in hurling and the game will be stop start.

He was too far away to see that hit on the Clare lads helmet ..... but again not his fault as the ball was hammered up there 60 yards in a few seconds to get a good view of it.. Bolt would struggle  to keep up with hurling at that level.... considering it was a tough match I thought he did well.. he consulted lines men and umpires throughout the game and applied the rules as best he could .... hes not there to let the game flow, I feel as long as you are consistent for both teams then there really is no complaints from either team... I'd have sent off wee Davy though... he loses control too much
Would agree with you, but his umpires or one of the linesmen should have seen it, the point I was making was it balanced out.

Thought the linesman at that time was more up with play to be honest and he could have seen it better... not sure the better team won as they were evenly match throughout the game...

It is hard to ref for sure.. I've div 1 game on Wed and if you are not up to the pace then the lads aren't shy in letting you know.... love the fat arses behind the wire telling you to keep up!! You'll do better? normally shuts them up
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Fuzzman

I watched the programme on Setanta last night about GAA ref David Coldrick. Was quite an interesting programme and I was surprised how much he talked to the players during the game like rugby refs do.
He seemed to really work hard with his linesmen and umpires to make the right calls but said he wished umpires had the authority to recommend cards as well as the linesmen.
He seemed to say its a big step up to referee an Ulster final and that you need to be sharp but remain calm.
In the Cork v Dublin match they showed he was annoyed with himself that he couldn't see the incident where the Cork full back picked the ball up off the ground. He had too many bodies between him and the ball and he admitted that to most of the Dublin players who complained to him. At the end of that game he felt bad about that incident and said that he got the major incident of the game wrong. I was glad to hear that they can admit that but I wish they could admit it publicly after a game.

http://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/video-the-new-setanta-documentary-focusing-on-referees-looks-excellent/440901