Cluxton

[imtommygunn]

It's not just his goalkeeping ability though - it's his ability to see passes, to vary kickouts based on peoples runs etc etc. There's never been a keeper that could do it like Cluxton.

Granted he wasn't just as effective this year but his kicking is the thing dublin would miss most.

[twohands!!!]

If Cluxton retires the whole dynamic of the dublin team and the dublin tactics change.

It would make it more interesting for the other 31 of us...

I would like to think that Cluxton's understudy is more than capable of replicating a similar style of kickout, especially for training purposes throughout the year.
I wouldn't be putting Dublin on a pedestal like that, they aren't streets ahead of the rest of the counties like Kilkenny are in Hurling. But yes of course they are in that group of top teams in the country that are considered the strongest and favourites for All Ireland titles.

I was at the League game against us where Clucko got himself sent off. Is it the same understudy as that day? He would need more big game time based on what I saw, if it was the same lad.

Was he bad in general or just not as effective as Cluxton when it came to the short kick out?

I'm not sure who the No.2 is to be honest but I'd find it hard to believe a county of Dublin's size and stature don't have more than one good goalkeeper to challenge Cluxton for the No.1 jersey.

He definitely looked a way off Cluxton's effectiveness from what I can remember - the thing is though Cluxton has literally years of experience in terms of dealing with certain players e.g. Flynn and in terms of being used to big-match situations. The pressure/scrutiny in terms of replacing Cluxton is likely to be considerable. In terms of legacy planning, thinking about it it wouldnt be the worst idea in the world if Cluxton took the whole league off next year and alternatives were tried out, with the understanding that Cluxton would most likely be back in the number 1 spot for the championship - I would rate Dublin's chances of doing the back-to-back a bit higher if they went with that approach.

[TheClutch]

It's not just his goalkeeping ability though - it's his ability to see passes, to vary kickouts based on peoples runs etc etc. There's never been a keeper that could do it like Cluxton.

Granted he wasn't just as effective this year but his kicking is the thing dublin would miss most.

I agree Cluxton has been the best in that regard. Something that might be hard for Dublin is; building a trust between the goalkeeper and the outfield players in his ability to get the ball to a Dublin jersey, if the outfielders have no confidence or doubt in the goalkeepers ability from the kickout then straight away they are in trouble.

I think Niall Morgan from Tyrone will be a leading goalkeeper in the country in years to come.

[muppet]

If Cluxton retires the whole dynamic of the dublin team and the dublin tactics change.

It would make it more interesting for the other 31 of us...

I would like to think that Cluxton's understudy is more than capable of replicating a similar style of kickout, especially for training purposes throughout the year.
I wouldn't be putting Dublin on a pedestal like that, they aren't streets ahead of the rest of the counties like Kilkenny are in Hurling. But yes of course they are in that group of top teams in the country that are considered the strongest and favourites for All Ireland titles.

I was at the League game against us where Clucko got himself sent off. Is it the same understudy as that day? He would need more big game time based on what I saw, if it was the same lad.

Was he bad in general or just not as effective as Cluxton when it came to the short kick out?

I'm not sure who the No.2 is to be honest but I'd find it hard to believe a county of Dublin's size and stature don't have more than one good goalkeeper to challenge Cluxton for the No.1 jersey.

The kickouts were the issue. I think we quickly went about 10 points up before the usual late goalfest at our end. I think it ended up a draw.

[Croí na hÉireann]

He has got very lax with the kickouts. A few yesterday and against Mayo were terrible.

But surely all this stuff could be worked out better beforehand. There didn't seem to any plan b yesterday. When the short ball wasn't on nobody out the field was making runs to help him.

I think he'll retire and in a way I hope he does. He's been the best of this generation and you don't want to see him in decline. He should get out now with his medal in his back pocket.

The short ball is the plan b. The preferred option is kicking long to team mate, if that's not on then he looks to go short.