Barman Leaves his job over being told he can't speak Irish

Started by Seany, September 12, 2016, 03:07:35 PM

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PW Nally

Quote from: leenie on September 14, 2016, 10:38:41 AM
As they say there is three sides to a story , your side , their side and the truth.

There's definitely more to this story, I know the o Shea family and worked for over 2 yrs in this bar , why after 8 months of employment was the issue of speaking Irish only brought up ? What was the other internal hr matter? This lad is a chancer and the fact that ppl are standing outside the pub with placards asking ppl to boycott the premises is a disgrace .. A place that employs over 70 ppl , I for one was v grateful to have had that job while at uni and was always accomadated by the o Shea's with regards to my studies. And I often heard Irish being spoke..
That's 2 posters here saying there's more to the story then meets the eye. What do you both know?

You often heard Irish spoken by the staff Leenie?

leenie

It's years since I worked there but and I was there a long time and going by this fellas interviews/version and from what I know of the family / business it doesn't add up.. ( I have no  inside details

When I was working there we had a well known regular customers who used Irish as there first language , the fella I was going out with was from the Gaeltacht, my housemate was an Irish teacher and for a fact I know they were at conversed with in Irish when they called in to the bar.  Myself being from the north and only having GCSE Irish and donegal Irish at that, I use to get lessons from the regular Irish speaker ..

The way the bucko and social media has made out that the establishment is anti Irish baffles me.

From experience ( going out with someone from the Gaeltacht) and having very little or none Irish and being surrounded by ppl speaking Irish can be very intimidating and alienating.

And these ones up in arms about our native language while expressing the disgust in 'English' .. Hah 90%. Of southerners I know felt Irish was forced on them and dare you bring up PEG to them ...
I'm trying to decide on a really meaningful message..

PW Nally

Quote from: leenie on September 14, 2016, 04:29:45 PM
It's years since I worked there but and I was there a long time and going by this fellas interviews/version and from what I know of the family / business it doesn't add up.. ( I have no  inside details

When I was working there we had a well known regular customers who used Irish as there first language you talking in singular or plural?, the fella I was going out with was from the Gaeltacht, my housemate was an Irish teacher and for a fact I know they were at conversed with in Irish when they called in to the bar what is your mother tongue!.  Myself being from the north and only having GCSE Irish and donegal Irish at that, I use to get lessons from the regular Irish speaker ..

The way the bucko and social media has made out that the establishment is anti Irish baffles me.

From experience ( going out with someone from the Gaeltacht) and having very little or none Irish and being surrounded by ppl speaking Irish can be very intimidating and alienating. Are you VERY intimidated or alienated when Polish/French/Roscommon people talk their own tongue in your presence?

And these ones up in arms about our native language while expressing the disgust in 'English' .. Hah 90%. Of southerners I know felt Irish was forced on them and dare you bring up PEG to them ... Peig was a hard sell to most but my experience is that most people regret as they get older the lack of Irish they now have

leenie

Quote from: PW Nally on September 14, 2016, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: leenie on September 14, 2016, 04:29:45 PM
It's years since I worked there but and I was there a long time and going by this fellas interviews/version and from what I know of the family / business it doesn't add up.. ( I have no  inside details

When I was working there we had a well known regular customers who used Irish as there first language you talking in singular or plural?, the fella I was going out with was from the Gaeltacht, my housemate was an Irish teacher and for a fact I know they were at conversed with in Irish when they called in to the bar what is your mother tongue!.  Myself being from the north and only having GCSE Irish and donegal Irish at that, I use to get lessons from the regular Irish speaker ..

The way the bucko and social media has made out that the establishment is anti Irish baffles me.

From experience ( going out with someone from the Gaeltacht) and having very little or none Irish and being surrounded by ppl speaking Irish can be very intimidating and alienating. Are you VERY intimidated or alienated when Polish/French/Roscommon people talk their own tongue in your presence?

And these ones up in arms about our native language while expressing the disgust in 'English' .. Hah 90%. Of southerners I know felt Irish was forced on them and dare you bring up PEG to them ... Peig was a hard sell to most but my experience is that most people regret as they get older the lack of Irish they now have


Plural
Irish
Yes


Do u think boycotting and protesting outside will benefit anyone ?
I'm trying to decide on a really meaningful message..

PW Nally

Quote from: leenie on September 14, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on September 14, 2016, 06:02:23 PM
Quote from: leenie on September 14, 2016, 04:29:45 PM
It's years since I worked there but and I was there a long time and going by this fellas interviews/version and from what I know of the family / business it doesn't add up.. ( I have no  inside details

When I was working there we had a well known regular customers who used Irish as there first language you talking in singular or plural?, the fella I was going out with was from the Gaeltacht, my housemate was an Irish teacher and for a fact I know they were at conversed with in Irish when they called in to the bar what is your mother tongue!.  Myself being from the north and only having GCSE Irish and donegal Irish at that, I use to get lessons from the regular Irish speaker ..

The way the bucko and social media has made out that the establishment is anti Irish baffles me.

From experience ( going out with someone from the Gaeltacht) and having very little or none Irish and being surrounded by ppl speaking Irish can be very intimidating and alienating. Are you VERY intimidated or alienated when Polish/French/Roscommon people talk their own tongue in your presence?

And these ones up in arms about our native language while expressing the disgust in 'English' .. Hah 90%. Of southerners I know felt Irish was forced on them and dare you bring up PEG to them ... Peig was a hard sell to most but my experience is that most people regret as they get older the lack of Irish they now have


Plural
Irish
Yes


Do u think boycotting and protesting outside will benefit anyone ?
If it's a straight up staff are not allowed speak Irish then I have no issue with peaceful protest.

If you or 5sams?? have other information that may indicate something else at play surely it will come out in the wash.