Doire v An Dun June 7th in Celtic Park (21 years on from the El Classico.)

[imtommygunn]

Yeah JoG2 not sure who said that either... Where'd that come from Indiana?

[Mikasa]

Stupidest thing I've read in a long time, how is an Ulster worth more than the All-Ireland?

[Keyser soze]

Well I don't know about wanting Ulster referees but that guy Kinsella is completely useless, thats for certain. He made me think that he was the wee useless guy that got picked last for all the teams and is hell bent on getting his revenge on all the good footballers now.

[Mikasa]

He certainly doesn't have a monopoly on being rubbish, but he blew for everything. I'd rather a crap referee who let things go a bit than one like Kinsella.

[general_lee]

That game was nowhere near as bad as some have claimed. At least it was competitive unlike many of the turkey shoots in the other provinces. McIver will be delighted with the result and even moreso with the fact that they will go into a likely semi against Donegal slightly under the radar. I wouldn't discount them from winning Ulster but they will need to offer more of a scoring threat other than just Bradley and Lynch. On a side note the refereeing was shocking, the standard nationwide is very poor apart from a handful.

You're right it was nowhere near as bad as made out earlier- it was in fact far worse.

When will people in Ulster realise that competitiveness does not equal good skill.

Just review the misplaced passes, wides, poor tackling and cynical fouling. If Barnet played Cowenbeath it would be competitive. You can't use competitiveness as a measure of quality. Two drunks could match each other for quality in a race after last orders

Fortunately that is unlikely to happen as they play in different countries.

Anyway I fail to see your point, if your deriding the game for a lack of quality then by extension your deriding the standard of gaelic football in the country. Indeed both of these counties are of a higher quality than 11 out of the 12 counties in Leinster if you base it on final league positions.

My point is it was a diabolical match to watch. If you give me a piece of chalk I will spell it out clearer for you . Don't be bringing extraneous non entity arguments into it. Judge each game on its merits

And that was an utterly dreadful game . Devoid of skill, entertainment and quality . But it had "intensity" which is an Ulster GAA fan's fail safe.

There were scores in the game from Bradley, Lynch and McKernan that would grace any field in the country. There was one point in the game so it was entertaining enough. The quality wasn't great but it's early days yet.

Ignore him. He wishes he was from Ulster. Or that his county was from Ulster. He sounds like an RTE pundit ffs.

Like Enda McGinley said the other night on a championship discussion panel hosted by Armagh GAA, these boys aren't in the entertainment business. Not that Sunday's game was even devoid of it.

Skill: see Fergal Doc, McKernan, Lynch, Skinner, Lynn, Devlin; Indiana must have selective vision
Entertainment: Bit of controversy. Some nice scores. Result always in doubt. Two teams that went hell for leather. Poor atmosphere granted but it was in Celtic Park so that can't be helped.
Quality: Quality is subjective. Two defensive teams. So what? What the game lacked in free-flowingness was made up for in our old friend intensity 

As a neutral I enjoyed the game. Not the best game ever by any stretch of the imagination but certainly not the worst. Neither team will go far unless Derry work some sort of miracle in the USFC as the qualifiers are not their friend. Down are lacking too much in midfield and half forward line to be any sort of a threat.

I agree with what your saying General in general, but bar last years qualifier disaster @ CP (no disrespect to Longford), I think Derry have won more qualifier games than any other county

Yeah my bad, I have just always expected a lot more from Derry given some of the footballers yous had/still have. Had that Longford game in mind, wasn't there one or two other surprise exits?

[screenexile]

That game was nowhere near as bad as some have claimed. At least it was competitive unlike many of the turkey shoots in the other provinces. McIver will be delighted with the result and even moreso with the fact that they will go into a likely semi against Donegal slightly under the radar. I wouldn't discount them from winning Ulster but they will need to offer more of a scoring threat other than just Bradley and Lynch. On a side note the refereeing was shocking, the standard nationwide is very poor apart from a handful.

You're right it was nowhere near as bad as made out earlier- it was in fact far worse.

When will people in Ulster realise that competitiveness does not equal good skill.

Just review the misplaced passes, wides, poor tackling and cynical fouling. If Barnet played Cowenbeath it would be competitive. You can't use competitiveness as a measure of quality. Two drunks could match each other for quality in a race after last orders

Fortunately that is unlikely to happen as they play in different countries.

Anyway I fail to see your point, if your deriding the game for a lack of quality then by extension your deriding the standard of gaelic football in the country. Indeed both of these counties are of a higher quality than 11 out of the 12 counties in Leinster if you base it on final league positions.

My point is it was a diabolical match to watch. If you give me a piece of chalk I will spell it out clearer for you . Don't be bringing extraneous non entity arguments into it. Judge each game on its merits

And that was an utterly dreadful game . Devoid of skill, entertainment and quality . But it had "intensity" which is an Ulster GAA fan's fail safe.

There were scores in the game from Bradley, Lynch and McKernan that would grace any field in the country. There was one point in the game so it was entertaining enough. The quality wasn't great but it's early days yet.

Ignore him. He wishes he was from Ulster. Or that his county was from Ulster. He sounds like an RTE pundit ffs.

Like Enda McGinley said the other night on a championship discussion panel hosted by Armagh GAA, these boys aren't in the entertainment business. Not that Sunday's game was even devoid of it.

Skill: see Fergal Doc, McKernan, Lynch, Skinner, Lynn, Devlin; Indiana must have selective vision
Entertainment: Bit of controversy. Some nice scores. Result always in doubt. Two teams that went hell for leather. Poor atmosphere granted but it was in Celtic Park so that can't be helped.
Quality: Quality is subjective. Two defensive teams. So what? What the game lacked in free-flowingness was made up for in our old friend intensity 

As a neutral I enjoyed the game. Not the best game ever by any stretch of the imagination but certainly not the worst. Neither team will go far unless Derry work some sort of miracle in the USFC as the qualifiers are not their friend. Down are lacking too much in midfield and half forward line to be any sort of a threat.

I agree with what your saying General in general, but bar last years qualifier disaster @ CP (no disrespect to Longford), I think Derry have won more qualifier games than any other county

Yeah my bad, I have just always expected a lot more from Derry given some of the footballers yous had/still have. Had that Longford game in mind, wasn't there one or two other surprise exits?

I think Longford have beaten us 3 times in the Qualifiers?? Last year 2012 and 2007!!! 

[general_lee]

Fcuk me lol 

[twohands!!!]

Pretty sure that Kerry have won 100% of their qualifier games.

Don't Foul review of the game

https://dontfoul.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/derry-v-down-2015-ulster-championship/

Doesn't exactly do much to support the notion that it was a decent game.

[screenexile]

After all the faux outrage around the lack of quality in this game last week I just sat through an hour and a half of dross served up by 2 groups of professionals who are supposedly the best their Countries have to offer... Jaysus Christ!!