British State Collusion

Started by Nally Stand, October 11, 2011, 05:03:20 PM

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red hander

Hard to believe that snivelling little shit is Tony Benn's son.

quit yo jibbajabba

Must be some serious shit to be going to these lengths to make sure it don't come out

AustinPowers

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on April 30, 2025, 07:32:53 PMMust be some serious shit to be going to these lengths to make sure it don't come out

Their determination to  stop any inquiry confirms  everything

I doubt the British government are  going to these lengths  to  prevent  a few  two-bit  loyalist paramilitaries  from  going to jail. The whole operation  into Sean Brown's  murder clearly  goes  very high up the ladder

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: AustinPowers on April 30, 2025, 08:54:51 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on April 30, 2025, 07:32:53 PMMust be some serious shit to be going to these lengths to make sure it don't come out

Their determination to  stop any inquiry confirms  everything

I doubt the British government are  going to these lengths  to  prevent  a few  two-bit  loyalist paramilitaries  from  going to jail. The whole operation  into Sean Brown's  murder clearly  goes  very high up the ladder

Crazy that they are withholding information on that murder.

That documentary RTE did last year would make you sick

Brendan

Quote from: red hander on April 30, 2025, 07:27:15 PMHard to believe that snivelling little shit is Tony Benn's son.

The da knew he'd be a p***k that's why he named him Hilary

GJL


Hoof Hearted

Spotlight tonight at 10.40
Sean brown case
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

Hereiam

Brits using this case to tighten up the law on who calls a public inquiry.
Westminster really is scum of the earth

AustinPowers

Quote from: Hereiam on June 10, 2025, 11:11:39 PMBrits using this case to tighten up the law on who calls a public inquiry.
Westminster really is scum of the earth

Yet some people were naive enough to think  Labour would  be totally different from the Tories,  when it came to Legacy cases.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on June 10, 2025, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on June 10, 2025, 11:11:39 PMBrits using this case to tighten up the law on who calls a public inquiry.
Westminster really is scum of the earth

Yet some people were naive enough to think  Labour would  be totally different from the Tories,  when it came to Legacy cases.



This isn't 'Labour' even Tony Blair's ' labour' wasn't a true Labour Party.. it's like all parties now, all saying whatever they can to get into power and doing what they are told by those that have bankrolled them into power..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Wildweasel74

#880
From what I can make out, Fulton picked up in Randalstown that nite on cctv, and obviously stayed at a safe house, as he was still sighted in Randalstown nxt day. Tad far away from Portadown. He was a known paid informer to some handlers. So u got MI5 covering up the tracks of their informer in the LVF, involved in murdering people. And they trying to hide this all coming out. As it be British govt involved directly in hindering their own police investigations, and hiding paid killers. They also queries on the car route to Randalstown, as it had be through Toome, with the police station at the old bridge with multi cameras.

johnnycool

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2025, 01:39:00 AMFrom what I can make out, Fulton picked up in Randalstown that nite on cctv, and obviously stayed at a safe house, as he was still sighted in Randalstown nxt day. Tad far away from Portadown. He was a known paid informer to some handlers. So u got MI5 covering up the tracks of their informer in the LVF, involved in murdering people. And they trying to hide this all coming out. As it be British govt involved directly in hindering their own police investigations, and hiding paid killers. They also queries on the car route to Randalstown, as it had be through Toome, with the police station at the old bridge with multi cameras.

and the lad who identified a woman in a police line up, he'd spotted in a car with three other men acting suspiciously outside the grounds the night before Sean was murdered.

The other three men had covered their faces when he walked by...


Stinks to high heavens.

tbrick18

Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2025, 01:39:00 AMFrom what I can make out, Fulton picked up in Randalstown that nite on cctv, and obviously stayed at a safe house, as he was still sighted in Randalstown nxt day. Tad far away from Portadown. He was a known paid informer to some handlers. So u got MI5 covering up the tracks of their informer in the LVF, involved in murdering people. And they trying to hide this all coming out. As it be British govt involved directly in hindering their own police investigations, and hiding paid killers. They also queries on the car route to Randalstown, as it had be through Toome, with the police station at the old bridge with multi cameras.

and the lad who identified a woman in a police line up, he'd spotted in a car with three other men acting suspiciously outside the grounds the night before Sean was murdered.

The other three men had covered their faces when he walked by...


Stinks to high heavens.

Does indeed.
Then add in that there are 25 suspects.
That's incredible that there are 25 with no-one held accountable. Begs the question, how many of those suspects are high profile people in NI government/ruc/psni/mi5/politics? 25 years is usually when state papers become public record, so they must be protecting people still in play today.

I dont think the truth will ever come out on this unfortunately, unless there is a whistleblower.

LVF were going to do this and they told their state handlers, got approval and were then facilitated in carrying out the murder and subsequently protected. Why Sean Brown in particular was chosen who knows.

My teenage kids watched it with me last night - and they wouldn't have had the context beforehand. They couldn't believe that this sort of thing happened.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: tbrick18 on June 11, 2025, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2025, 01:39:00 AMFrom what I can make out, Fulton picked up in Randalstown that nite on cctv, and obviously stayed at a safe house, as he was still sighted in Randalstown nxt day. Tad far away from Portadown. He was a known paid informer to some handlers. So u got MI5 covering up the tracks of their informer in the LVF, involved in murdering people. And they trying to hide this all coming out. As it be British govt involved directly in hindering their own police investigations, and hiding paid killers. They also queries on the car route to Randalstown, as it had be through Toome, with the police station at the old bridge with multi cameras.

and the lad who identified a woman in a police line up, he'd spotted in a car with three other men acting suspiciously outside the grounds the night before Sean was murdered.

The other three men had covered their faces when he walked by...


Stinks to high heavens.

Does indeed.
Then add in that there are 25 suspects.
That's incredible that there are 25 with no-one held accountable. Begs the question, how many of those suspects are high profile people in NI government/ruc/psni/mi5/politics? 25 years is usually when state papers become public record, so they must be protecting people still in play today.

I dont think the truth will ever come out on this unfortunately, unless there is a whistleblower.

LVF were going to do this and they told their state handlers, got approval and were then facilitated in carrying out the murder and subsequently protected. Why Sean Brown in particular was chosen who knows.

My teenage kids watched it with me last night - and they wouldn't have had the context beforehand. They couldn't believe that this sort of thing happened.



Listened to the Podcast with Bridie and her daughter talking to Niblock and Osin, her main thing was WHY, why Sean..

Now I know we all at the time know that, prominent GAA man, a catholic so in the eyes of the the LVF and co that was fair game, like so many of the the people that we know that were murdered because they were easy targets..

Listening to Sean's background was strangely familiar, (I worked as a engineering tutor across the divides and heavily involved in GAA) but he organised cross community events and was a proper family man! Why would (if this was the case) the handlers allow or give the green light for this particular murder?

Stinking dirty rotten war, the quest for answers won't stop for many, some have just given up and have strong faith to  let it go in parts.

I firmly believe in an amnesty for truth, let people know and let them get on (if possible) with their lives, but you'll not get people coming forward with answers while there is a threat of jail and publicity that would follow
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2025, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 11, 2025, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 11, 2025, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2025, 01:39:00 AMFrom what I can make out, Fulton picked up in Randalstown that nite on cctv, and obviously stayed at a safe house, as he was still sighted in Randalstown nxt day. Tad far away from Portadown. He was a known paid informer to some handlers. So u got MI5 covering up the tracks of their informer in the LVF, involved in murdering people. And they trying to hide this all coming out. As it be British govt involved directly in hindering their own police investigations, and hiding paid killers. They also queries on the car route to Randalstown, as it had be through Toome, with the police station at the old bridge with multi cameras.

and the lad who identified a woman in a police line up, he'd spotted in a car with three other men acting suspiciously outside the grounds the night before Sean was murdered.

The other three men had covered their faces when he walked by...


Stinks to high heavens.

Does indeed.
Then add in that there are 25 suspects.
That's incredible that there are 25 with no-one held accountable. Begs the question, how many of those suspects are high profile people in NI government/ruc/psni/mi5/politics? 25 years is usually when state papers become public record, so they must be protecting people still in play today.

I dont think the truth will ever come out on this unfortunately, unless there is a whistleblower.

LVF were going to do this and they told their state handlers, got approval and were then facilitated in carrying out the murder and subsequently protected. Why Sean Brown in particular was chosen who knows.

My teenage kids watched it with me last night - and they wouldn't have had the context beforehand. They couldn't believe that this sort of thing happened.



Listened to the Podcast with Bridie and her daughter talking to Niblock and Osin, her main thing was WHY, why Sean..

Now I know we all at the time know that, prominent GAA man, a catholic so in the eyes of the the LVF and co that was fair game, like so many of the the people that we know that were murdered because they were easy targets..

Listening to Sean's background was strangely familiar, (I worked as a engineering tutor across the divides and heavily involved in GAA) but he organised cross community events and was a proper family man! Why would (if this was the case) the handlers allow or give the green light for this particular murder?

Stinking dirty rotten war, the quest for answers won't stop for many, some have just given up and have strong faith to  let it go in parts.

I firmly believe in an amnesty for truth, let people know and let them get on (if possible) with their lives, but you'll not get people coming forward with answers while there is a threat of jail and publicity that would follow

The British State has more to lose from a truth commission than anyone else.