Muineacháin - An Cabháin - El Classico II

[beer baron]

Not sure if it was mentioned already in this thread but the Cavan number 2 pulled out of a blatant ball in the second when he was facing the play whilst Darren Hughes jumped and caught it over his head. Hughes had no right to win the ball and in normal circumstances would have been clattered by the corner back. However he decided to step aside and Hughes duly popped the ball over the bar. For that one incident alone Monaghan deserved the win.

Yeah Jason Mc Loughlin hell or a wee player and usually no fear in him at all. Was disappointed in that. Was out drowning my sorrows last night so didn't see Sunday game but was Hyland asked about Dunne pointing the free at the end? Doubt he was overly impressed,i certainly wasn't.

[Hound]

Not sure if it was mentioned already in this thread but the Cavan number 2 pulled out of a blatant ball in the second when he was facing the play whilst Darren Hughes jumped and caught it over his head. Hughes had no right to win the ball and in normal circumstances would have been clattered by the corner back. However he decided to step aside and Hughes duly popped the ball over the bar. For that one incident alone Monaghan deserved the win.

Yeah Jason Mc Loughlin hell or a wee player and usually no fear in him at all. Was disappointed in that. Was out drowning my sorrows last night so didn't see Sunday game but was Hyland asked about Dunne pointing the free at the end? Doubt he was overly impressed,i certainly wasn't.

After the ref told the linesman how much time was added on, and just before the 70 minute mark, there was a stoppage in play to treat an injury to the Monaghan keeper. I would have expected an additional 30 seconds if not a minute due to that. But the ref must have just ignored it.

[beer baron]

Not sure if it was mentioned already in this thread but the Cavan number 2 pulled out of a blatant ball in the second when he was facing the play whilst Darren Hughes jumped and caught it over his head. Hughes had no right to win the ball and in normal circumstances would have been clattered by the corner back. However he decided to step aside and Hughes duly popped the ball over the bar. For that one incident alone Monaghan deserved the win.

Yeah Jason Mc Loughlin hell or a wee player and usually no fear in him at all. Was disappointed in that. Was out drowning my sorrows last night so didn't see Sunday game but was Hyland asked about Dunne pointing the free at the end? Doubt he was overly impressed,i certainly wasn't.

After the ref told the linesman how much time was added on, and just before the 70 minute mark, there was a stoppage in play to treat an injury to the Monaghan keeper. I would have expected an additional 30 seconds if not a minute due to that. But the ref must have just ignored it.

But surely you ask the ref? He took the ball off Niall Mc Dermott so i was sure he was saying you're a bigger man Niall get in on the square 

[Main Street]

Not sure if it was mentioned already in this thread but the Cavan number 2 pulled out of a blatant ball in the second when he was facing the play whilst Darren Hughes jumped and caught it over his head. Hughes had no right to win the ball and in normal circumstances would have been clattered by the corner back. However he decided to step aside and Hughes duly popped the ball over the bar. For that one incident alone Monaghan deserved the win.

Yeah Jason Mc Loughlin hell or a wee player and usually no fear in him at all. Was disappointed in that. Was out drowning my sorrows last night so didn't see Sunday game but was Hyland asked about Dunne pointing the free at the end? Doubt he was overly impressed,i certainly wasn't.

After the ref told the linesman how much time was added on, and just before the 70 minute mark, there was a stoppage in play to treat an injury to the Monaghan keeper. I would have expected an additional 30 seconds if not a minute due to that. But the ref must have just ignored it.

But surely you ask the ref? He took the ball off Niall Mc Dermott so i was sure he was saying you're a bigger man Niall get in on the square 

Not sure if it was mentioned already in this thread but the Cavan number 2 pulled out of a blatant ball in the second when he was facing the play whilst Darren Hughes jumped and caught it over his head. Hughes had no right to win the ball and in normal circumstances would have been clattered by the corner back. However he decided to step aside and Hughes duly popped the ball over the bar. For that one incident alone Monaghan deserved the win.

Yeah Jason Mc Loughlin hell or a wee player and usually no fear in him at all. Was disappointed in that. Was out drowning my sorrows last night so didn't see Sunday game but was Hyland asked about Dunne pointing the free at the end? Doubt he was overly impressed,i certainly wasn't.

After the ref told the linesman how much time was added on, and just before the 70 minute mark, there was a stoppage in play to treat an injury to the Monaghan keeper. I would have expected an additional 30 seconds if not a minute due to that. But the ref must have just ignored it.

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Not sure if it was mentioned already in this thread but the Cavan number 2 pulled out of a blatant ball in the second when he was facing the play whilst Darren Hughes jumped and caught it over his head. Hughes had no right to win the ball and in normal circumstances would have been clattered by the corner back. However he decided to step aside and Hughes duly popped the ball over the bar. For that one incident alone Monaghan deserved the win.

Yeah Jason Mc Loughlin hell or a wee player and usually no fear in him at all. Was disappointed in that. Was out drowning my sorrows last night so didn't see Sunday game but was Hyland asked about Dunne pointing the free at the end? Doubt he was overly impressed,i certainly wasn't.

After the ref told the linesman how much time was added on, and just before the 70 minute mark, there was a stoppage in play to treat an injury to the Monaghan keeper. I would have expected an additional 30 seconds if not a minute due to that. But the ref must have just ignored it.

Beggan was being treated  after Cavan were awarded a 45.
The big chance Cavan had to draw the game was from that 45 and it was within the capability of the  'goalie' to knock it over the bar.
Cavan's last free was one of the softest awarded in the game, but why was McKiernan ársing about with the ball in the middle?  there were 2 free Cavan players out wide on the left and right, shouting at him for the ball, instead he chose to carry the ball right into the Monaghan clutter, took a tumble and won a free.

[Maguire01]

Great result for Monaghan. Never an easy game playing Cavan in Breffni (although where were all the Cavan supporters yesterday? outnumbered at home?).

Good to see a decent, exciting and well-tempered game. Thought the ref was far too fussy, blowing frees for very little and then missing some bigger things.

Even at 60 minutes i'd have taken a replay next Sunday in Clones, but fair play to management and the substitutes - Clerkin, Gollogly and Walshe all had a major impact - it's great that Monaghan can call such players off the bench. Some great scores from play from Mone, Clerkin, Walshe, Hughes, and of course, McManus. McAnespie and O'Connell also worth a mention, and Kieran Hughes did a lot of work - Cavan's predicted mid-field dominance never really materialised.

It was by no means a great Monaghan performance, but they did what they had too - not unlike our 2 games leading to the 2013 Ulster Final.

[babarino]

MOR seemed nervous ahead of the game, and we weren't playing with confidence. On the hour mark I couldn't see us winning it. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Dick Clerkin was immense. He went for a difficult point to bring us back to within a point. After being labelled a thug on this board before the match, he gave his answer on the pitch.

Mackey is a Cavan player I'd rate highly. Had he been kept on the bench and brought on in the closing stages, it may very have been a different story. Leaders were absent for Cavan at the crunch stage.

Parallels could be drawn with the Monaghan - Down Ulster semi final a few years ago, when we were well on top throughout and petered out near the end. In that game and in yesterday's, luck had little bearing on the result. We could go on about ref decisions, but it takes leaders to grab the game by the scruff of the neck, which we had yesterday.

[beer baron]

Great result for Monaghan. Never an easy game playing Cavan in Breffni (although where were all the Cavan supporters yesterday? outnumbered at home?).

Good to see a decent, exciting and well-tempered game. Thought the ref was far too fussy, blowing frees for very little and then missing some bigger things.

Even at 60 minutes i'd have taken a replay next Sunday in Clones, but fair play to management and the substitutes - Clerkin, Gollogly and Walshe all had a major impact - it's great that Monaghan can call such players off the bench. Some great scores from play from Mone, Clerkin, Walshe, Hughes, and of course, McManus. McAnespie and O'Connell also worth a mention, and Kieran Hughes did a lot of work - Cavan's predicted mid-field dominance never really materialised.

It was by no means a great Monaghan performance, but they did what they had too - not unlike our 2 games leading to the 2013 Ulster Final.

I thought we outnumbered you guys going by what i seen.

[Main Street]

It was by no means a great Monaghan performance, but they did what they had too - not unlike our 2 games leading to the 2013 Ulster Final.

I don't know how these things work,
So far, it's as if the first era of 2015 was completed after the  Dublin SF game at Croke Pk, then the  players default to zero and we start again from scratch.
In relative terms, for most of the game yesterday, we were below the pace and sharpness that we had shown in most of the league.
However, i'll take a slow burn progress over a hit-the-ground-running, as what happened when we  dealt with Armagh and Fermanagh with aplomb, before petering out into a nothingness.

[Maguire01]

It was by no means a great Monaghan performance, but they did what they had too - not unlike our 2 games leading to the 2013 Ulster Final.

I don't know how these things work,
So far, it's as if the first era of 2015 was completed after the  Dublin SF game at Croke Pk, then the  players default to zero and we start again from scratch.
In relative terms, for most of the game yesterday, we were below the pace and sharpness that we had shown in most of the league.
However, i'll take a slow burn progress over a hit-the-ground-running, as what happened when we  dealt with Armagh and Fermanagh with aplomb, before petering out into a nothingness.

Yesterday was much better preparation for Fermanagh/Antrim than a comfortable victory.

[GrandMasterFlash]

Delighted with the win and more so the manner of it i.e. coming from (well..) behind to finish strong. Monaghan lacked championship sharpness in first 45 mins; second to balls, behind their men etc. I do believe the hype played a part and this was evident on MORs face also.. Cavan started the game at championship pace and never let Monaghan get into their rhythm. Mackey, McKiernan, R Flanagan and Argue were causing all sorts of problems with the latter giving (an unfit) Drew Wylie his fill of it..

I though Kieran Hughes done well and kept Monaghan in the game. If he wasn't clean catching he was breaking it cleverly. We seemed to run into trouble a lot in the game but this was in no doubt due to Cavan's resolute defence. McManus was exceptional, say no more..

Experience won it in the end which was great to see. During the 00's when we were going well you'd have looked to the bench with despair in tight games.. Yesterday was different and Dick Clerkin fully confirmed his correct decision to give it a a rattle for another year. Great to see Colin Walshe back also and what an important (first?) championship point.

Cavan just lacked leadership and experience in the last 15 mins and I thought it was strange that Mackey was taken off as he broke the Monaghan defence a few times and carried a lot of ball; he's a clever footballer.

An exciting and relatively clean game of football. I thought in real time that the ref was pedantic and seemed to blow the whistle in anticipation of the foul almost.. Having watched the recording yesterday I adjusted my opinion; he got most of the decisions right, bar Mone's penalty..

Anyhow, Monaghan done what they needed to to and I certainly didn't expect the game or outcome to be much different..

[mylestheslasher]

Congratulations Monaghan. I'm well sickened but sure what else would you expect to lose like that to your nearest rivals. Not sure if ye are good enough for Donegal but you would not be far off in my opinion. Sad day for Cavan, thought this was a brilliant chance to get to a Ulster final. Whether we can get over this and regroup for the qualifiers I don't know.

[Old yeller]

Who were the idiots behind the goals? Must've got lost on the way to Old Trafford or somewhere. I was embarrassed for the normal Monaghan fans. When did it become ok to chant swear words at a GAA match? Tools 

[tommysmith]

Who were the idiots behind the goals? Must've got lost on the way to Old Trafford or somewhere. I was embarrassed for the normal Monaghan fans. When did it become ok to chant swear words at a GAA match? Tools 

Idiots is right, I never heard the likes of them before but at least they were a minority a not a reflection of the majority of Monaghan supporters at the game.

[upmonaghansayswe]

On the advantage rule.

The free the Cavan keeper took in the second half (round 55m out) came from Jinxy pushing a player. The ref put up his arm for the advantage and about 1 second later, i think it was Darren Hughes, fouled another player (about 45m out) so a free was awarded for the original foul.

Surely the fouling team should be punished more by the free being awarded for the 2nd foul (if closer to the goal) or does the advantage rule say that no other free can be awarded during the 5 seconds of advantage?

Irrelevant now, but it could have made a difference.