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No wides

Quote from: thebigfella on February 05, 2016, 12:33:04 PM
Quote from: No wides on February 05, 2016, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 05, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
Quote from: No wides on February 04, 2016, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 04, 2016, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: No wides on February 04, 2016, 03:34:26 PM
The work won't get done in the confines of an office, must Production work has to be done out of hours, large tech companies appreciate that and give the trade off to work from home.

Continuous delivery and automation will kill these tasks eventually. Large tech companies appreciate that this is dead money and are investing this route; but in the meantime outsourcing to companies in different time zones is common practice.

Out of office support in common place in IT departments but that is the exception to the rule. If your deployments are taking 45-50 hours a week, then there is seriously fcuked up.
That is a serious amount of assumptions you made, no where did I say a deployment takes 45 - 50 hours,

Your the one on about companies requiring people to work from home to support production systems. If it's not 45-50 hours then there is no need to work from home.


I was replying to a user Dinny who said his company had revoked working from home, I was saying that my average work week was 45 to 50 hours but that wouldn't be achievable if I worked in an office, so my trade off for doing long hours was the flexibility of working from home.

I'd say most of our average work weeks are around that and most of us work in offices. I don't see why you need to work from home just because you can't manage your work load either.

That 50 hours billable time excluding any breaks for food etc., I'd say you are grasping for straws if you think most people work that as the norm.  As for my work load and what I can and cannot manage, you know nothing about it and again are making loads of assumptions.  I seriously wouldnt let you near any system if you just worked on assumptions.

No wides

I'll park it there with you bigfella, furnish me with your work etc. and we can chat - I wouldnt make assumptions about your work, but you seem to think you have the whole IT industry covered and can make assumptions abut other folk.  Here a wee one to make you feel at home  ::)

thebigfella

Quote from: No wides on February 05, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
I'll park it there with you bigfella, furnish me with your work etc. and we can chat - I wouldnt make assumptions about your work, but you seem to think you have the whole IT industry covered and can make assumptions abut other folk.  Here a wee one to make you feel at home  ::)

You have your knickers in a twist about something so park away. I hope this is n't part of your 50 hours you bill.


Walter Cronc

What's the general thoughts on applying for a 'lead' position with a different organisation? If you have experience in covering all the tasks should you not let the term lead put you off??

foxcommander

Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 05, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
What's the general thoughts on applying for a 'lead' position with a different organisation? If you have experience in covering all the tasks should you not let the term lead put you off??

Go for it.

Enda Kenny went for the Lead job at the government and hasn't a notion what he's doing.

You'll be fine.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

NAG1

Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 05, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
What's the general thoughts on applying for a 'lead' position with a different organisation? If you have experience in covering all the tasks should you not let the term lead put you off??

If you have done the tasks and have experience of line management that you can make relevant then yeah go for it.

Walter Cronc

Cheers guys. Sure whats the worst that can happen :)

AZOffaly

Quote from: NAG1 on February 05, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 05, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
What's the general thoughts on applying for a 'lead' position with a different organisation? If you have experience in covering all the tasks should you not let the term lead put you off??

If you have done the tasks and have experience of line management that you can make relevant then yeah go for it.

Absolutely. Go for it. Sure that's how you get advancement sometimes, by moving jobs. You can't always rely on promotions. If you meet all the technical requirements, and feel like you are capable, then go for it. In the interview, emphasise your experience and that you feel you are ready for new responsibility and a new challenge.

Walter Cronc


trueblue1234

Quote from: AZOffaly on February 05, 2016, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 05, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 05, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
What's the general thoughts on applying for a 'lead' position with a different organisation? If you have experience in covering all the tasks should you not let the term lead put you off??

If you have done the tasks and have experience of line management that you can make relevant then yeah go for it.

Absolutely. Go for it. Sure that's how you get advancement sometimes, by moving jobs. You can't always rely on promotions. If you meet all the technical requirements, and feel like you are capable, then go for it. In the interview, emphasise your experience and that you feel you are ready for new responsibility and a new challenge.

It can be getting the interview in the first place that can be the problem in this sort of process, where you are stepping up into a role. Unfortunately in most occasions employers want the finished article and will, a lot of the time, go for someone who has the experience but maybe not the fit, over someone who looks capable and would be a good fit for the role. So always make sure and embellish any aspects of your current role that might suggest the ability to step up. There's a fair chance the company will have internal people at the same level as you and unless you can show you can deliver more than them, then it can be hard to get your nose in the door. If you do have the ability then it should be easier to demonstrate at interview stage but it's so important to get the CV right in this sort of process. 
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Walter Cronc

Yeah totally agree. The CV is vital when your trying to get up that ladder a little quicker than normal.