Senseless attacks on Orange Halls

Started by mournerambler, June 05, 2009, 11:14:11 PM

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pintsofguinness

Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 01:31:28 PM
So it's only Prods who try to force RC's out of their homes then, eh, never the other way round?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  :D

pathetic.
Did you not see what I wrote in my last post, or merely fail to understand it? Namely:

"I am not attempting to 'spin' or 'equalise', nor have I ever denied/condoned/defended sectarian intimidation etc from amongst the Protestant community etc. Indeed, I am quite happy for readers to judge for themselves 'who started it', 'who is worse' or whether 'it aint quite the same' etc   :o
Rather, I am merely pointing out the fallacy expressed by certain posters on here that 'Only Prods are sectarian' or 'Only Taigs suffer from sectarianism' etc"


Or is it merely that you still  don't understand the correct meaning of the term "whataboutery"?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  ::)
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Evil Genius

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 01:31:28 PM
So it's only Prods who try to force RC's out of their homes then, eh, never the other way round?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  :D

pathetic.
Did you not see what I wrote in my last post, or merely fail to understand it? Namely:

"I am not attempting to 'spin' or 'equalise', nor have I ever denied/condoned/defended sectarian intimidation etc from amongst the Protestant community etc. Indeed, I am quite happy for readers to judge for themselves 'who started it', 'who is worse' or whether 'it aint quite the same' etc   :o
Rather, I am merely pointing out the fallacy expressed by certain posters on here that 'Only Prods are sectarian' or 'Only Taigs suffer from sectarianism' etc"


Or is it merely that you still  don't understand the correct meaning of the term "whataboutery"?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  ::)
Like a constipated parrot, the "POG" is heard squawking all over over GAA-Land, endlessly repeating his soundbites, without substance, understanding or originality...

Maybe I'll try one more time, in the hope that it might finally penetrate that thickest of skulls.

To whit, "whataboutery" is where someone accused of wrongdoing seeks to defend himself or evade responsibility by pointing to a similar wrongdoing associated with his accuser. In that way, he (the accused) hopes to persuade people that that which he is accused of is unimportant, or misplaced, or even never happened in the first place.
http://www.sluggerotoole.com/archives/2005/02/glossary_what_i.php

I have never denied that Prods/Loyalists etc have ever committed (in this respect) heinous acts of sectarianism - rather I have pointedly acknowledged this and condemned them in unequivocal terms . For example, when challenged in the Kevin McDade/Coleraine murder thread, I posted the following:

"Namely, what happened to Mr. McDaid, his Family and Neighbours etc was an utterly unjustifiable, barbarous and atrocious attack which should be condemned without reservation or equivocation by every decent person. I hope that all the scumbags responsible are caught, tried and found guilty, before being sentenced to serve the rest of their natural life behind bars.
Further, in so far as the perpetrators consider themselves to be 'Loyalists', I want to make it clear that they were not acting in my name, or that of my community. In fact, it is especially incumbent upon any member of my community who knows anything about it to give his/her full co-operation to the PSNI.
I don't know what else I can add, only to express my sincere sympathy to the victims, in the hope that they get justice and relief"


Yet still I get accused of "whataboutery", "equalisation" and bigotry etc, even to the extent of being likened to the Ku Klux Klan, all for the unforgiveable sin of pointing out to people like you certain uncomfortable truths, such as that sectarian hatred in Northern Ireland is by no means confined to one particular community.

Then again, maybe I'm not really allowed to do so on what certain Members like you clearly consider to be an "Ourselves Alone" website, even on a thread concerning itself with sectarian attacks by Catholics/Republicans on Orange Halls.  ::)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Main Street

Quote from: Roger on August 02, 2009, 11:00:12 PM
However, since you seemingly don't even allow some people to have religious beliefs

There you go again Roger, You can't stop it can you  ;D
I am supposed to have hatred toward other religious beliefs because I make a theological observation, with respect, about an OO members dogmatic interpretation of their religious doctrine.
Therin lies the kernel of evidence of your lack of education in these matters.
You can't discriminate between an opinion made with respect and an absolute intolerant lack of respect.

Thats pretty extreme Roger.
That would be bigger transformation than the eucharist.
Turning an educated theological observation into pure hatred.




pintsofguinness

Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 01:31:28 PM
So it's only Prods who try to force RC's out of their homes then, eh, never the other way round?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  :D

pathetic.
Did you not see what I wrote in my last post, or merely fail to understand it? Namely:

"I am not attempting to 'spin' or 'equalise', nor have I ever denied/condoned/defended sectarian intimidation etc from amongst the Protestant community etc. Indeed, I am quite happy for readers to judge for themselves 'who started it', 'who is worse' or whether 'it aint quite the same' etc   :o
Rather, I am merely pointing out the fallacy expressed by certain posters on here that 'Only Prods are sectarian' or 'Only Taigs suffer from sectarianism' etc"


Or is it merely that you still  don't understand the correct meaning of the term "whataboutery"?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  ::)
Like a constipated parrot, the "POG" is heard squawking all over over GAA-Land, endlessly repeating his soundbites, without substance, understanding or originality...

Maybe I'll try one more time, in the hope that it might finally penetrate that thickest of skulls.

To whit, "whataboutery" is where someone accused of wrongdoing seeks to defend himself or evade responsibility by pointing to a similar wrongdoing associated with his accuser. In that way, he (the accused) hopes to persuade people that that which he is accused of is unimportant, or misplaced, or even never happened in the first place.
http://www.sluggerotoole.com/archives/2005/02/glossary_what_i.php

I have never denied that Prods/Loyalists etc have ever committed (in this respect) heinous acts of sectarianism - rather I have pointedly acknowledged this and condemned them in unequivocal terms . For example, when challenged in the Kevin McDade/Coleraine murder thread, I posted the following:

"Namely, what happened to Mr. McDaid, his Family and Neighbours etc was an utterly unjustifiable, barbarous and atrocious attack which should be condemned without reservation or equivocation by every decent person. I hope that all the scumbags responsible are caught, tried and found guilty, before being sentenced to serve the rest of their natural life behind bars.
Further, in so far as the perpetrators consider themselves to be 'Loyalists', I want to make it clear that they were not acting in my name, or that of my community. In fact, it is especially incumbent upon any member of my community who knows anything about it to give his/her full co-operation to the PSNI.
I don't know what else I can add, only to express my sincere sympathy to the victims, in the hope that they get justice and relief"


Yet still I get accused of "whataboutery", "equalisation" and bigotry etc, even to the extent of being likened to the Ku Klux Klan, all for the unforgiveable sin of pointing out to people like you certain uncomfortable truths, such as that sectarian hatred in Northern Ireland is by no means confined to one particular community.

Then again, maybe I'm not really allowed to do so on what certain Members like you clearly consider to be an "Ourselves Alone" website, even on a thread concerning itself with sectarian attacks by Catholics/Republicans on Orange Halls.  ::)
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 01:31:28 PM
So it's only Prods who try to force RC's out of their homes then, eh, never the other way round?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  :D

pathetic.
Did you not see what I wrote in my last post, or merely fail to understand it? Namely:

"I am not attempting to 'spin' or 'equalise', nor have I ever denied/condoned/defended sectarian intimidation etc from amongst the Protestant community etc. Indeed, I am quite happy for readers to judge for themselves 'who started it', 'who is worse' or whether 'it aint quite the same' etc   :o
Rather, I am merely pointing out the fallacy expressed by certain posters on here that 'Only Prods are sectarian' or 'Only Taigs suffer from sectarianism' etc"


Or is it merely that you still  don't understand the correct meaning of the term "whataboutery"?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  ::)
Like a constipated parrot, the "POG" is heard squawking all over over GAA-Land, endlessly repeating his soundbites, without substance, understanding or originality...

Maybe I'll try one more time
*
*
*
<cutting out the usual irrelevant dross>
*
*
*

Then again, maybe I'm not really allowed to do so on what certain Members like you clearly consider to be an "Ourselves Alone" website, even on a thread concerning itself with sectarian attacks by Catholics/Republicans on Orange Halls.  ::)
irony alert  :D- since you deviated the thread to post that 'attacks on fountain estate'
..........

Evil Genius

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 06, 2009, 01:31:28 PM
So it's only Prods who try to force RC's out of their homes then, eh, never the other way round?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  :D

pathetic.
Did you not see what I wrote in my last post, or merely fail to understand it? Namely:

"I am not attempting to 'spin' or 'equalise', nor have I ever denied/condoned/defended sectarian intimidation etc from amongst the Protestant community etc. Indeed, I am quite happy for readers to judge for themselves 'who started it', 'who is worse' or whether 'it aint quite the same' etc   :o
Rather, I am merely pointing out the fallacy expressed by certain posters on here that 'Only Prods are sectarian' or 'Only Taigs suffer from sectarianism' etc"


Or is it merely that you still  don't understand the correct meaning of the term "whataboutery"?  ::)

What about, what about, what about  ::)
Like a constipated parrot, the "POG" is heard squawking all over over GAA-Land, endlessly repeating his soundbites, without substance, understanding or originality...

Maybe I'll try one more time, in the hope that it might finally penetrate that thickest of skulls.

To whit, "whataboutery" is where someone accused of wrongdoing seeks to defend himself or evade responsibility by pointing to a similar wrongdoing associated with his accuser. In that way, he (the accused) hopes to persuade people that that which he is accused of is unimportant, or misplaced, or even never happened in the first place.
http://www.sluggerotoole.com/archives/2005/02/glossary_what_i.php

I have never denied that Prods/Loyalists etc have ever committed (in this respect) heinous acts of sectarianism - rather I have pointedly acknowledged this and condemned them in unequivocal terms . For example, when challenged in the Kevin McDade/Coleraine murder thread, I posted the following:

"Namely, what happened to Mr. McDaid, his Family and Neighbours etc was an utterly unjustifiable, barbarous and atrocious attack which should be condemned without reservation or equivocation by every decent person. I hope that all the scumbags responsible are caught, tried and found guilty, before being sentenced to serve the rest of their natural life behind bars.
Further, in so far as the perpetrators consider themselves to be 'Loyalists', I want to make it clear that they were not acting in my name, or that of my community. In fact, it is especially incumbent upon any member of my community who knows anything about it to give his/her full co-operation to the PSNI.
I don't know what else I can add, only to express my sincere sympathy to the victims, in the hope that they get justice and relief"


Yet still I get accused of "whataboutery", "equalisation" and bigotry etc, even to the extent of being likened to the Ku Klux Klan, all for the unforgiveable sin of pointing out to people like you certain uncomfortable truths, such as that sectarian hatred in Northern Ireland is by no means confined to one particular community.

Then again, maybe I'm not really allowed to do so on what certain Members like you clearly consider to be an "Ourselves Alone" website, even on a thread concerning itself with sectarian attacks by Catholics/Republicans on Orange Halls.  ::)

What's wrong POG, running out of cheap, unoriginal and meaningless soundbites?

Reduced to cheap, unoriginal and meaningless photos instead?

I hope you never reach the stage where you are forced to come up with any sort of substantive reply.

You know, addressing the issue, rather than the poster... ::)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

pintsofguinness

I could come up with a reply if I wasn't afraid of falling in to a coma reading one of your posts.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Evil Genius

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 06:41:36 PM
I could come up with a reply if I wasn't afraid of falling in to a coma reading one of your posts.
Nope. You've tried that line before, too, with similar lack of credibility.

Besides, you've never been afraid to use that other preferred line of yours - "I stopped reading after the first sentence etc" - to prevent you from constructing an answer...

What's that other favourite parrot squawk of yours, then?

Let me see...

"Pathetic" - that's the one!  :D
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

pintsofguinness

Seriously, I cant read more than two lines of most of your posts.  They bore me, to death. 
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Evil Genius

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Seriously, I cant read more than two lines of most of your posts. 
Neither can you refrain from  answering them, it seems, either. You're a strange man/woman/parrot, that's for sure.  ???
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
They bore me, to death. 
That's no incentive for to stop posting, is it?  :D
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

ardmhachaabu

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Seriously, I cant read more than two lines of most of your posts.  They bore me, to death. 
Say what you mean pints  :D
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something

orangeman

Plus ca change..............

St Patrick's GAA club, Donagh, is badly damaged by fireA Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) clubhouse in County Fermanagh has been badly damaged by an overnight fire.

Firefighters were called to the blaze at St Patrick's GAA club in Donagh at about 23:15 BST on Tuesday.

The fire officer in charge of the operation said about a quarter of the building had been destroyed.

Victor Spence said the cause of the fire was under investigation but at this stage it is not thought to be suspicious.

Four fire appliances and up to 20 firefighters tackled the blaze.

The fire started in the rear of the building and damaged a kitchen and store room area.

No-one was in the building at the time and there were no injuries.

A spokeswoman for the club said the alarm was raised by a committee member who noticed the fire late on Tuesday night.

She said they were waiting on fire crews to return to the clubhouse on Wednesday to assess the damage to the remainder of the building.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: orangeman on April 03, 2013, 10:31:57 AM
Plus ca change..............

St Patrick's GAA club, Donagh, is badly damaged by fireA Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) clubhouse in County Fermanagh has been badly damaged by an overnight fire.

Firefighters were called to the blaze at St Patrick's GAA club in Donagh at about 23:15 BST on Tuesday.

The fire officer in charge of the operation said about a quarter of the building had been destroyed.

Victor Spence said the cause of the fire was under investigation but at this stage it is not thought to be suspicious.

Four fire appliances and up to 20 firefighters tackled the blaze.

The fire started in the rear of the building and damaged a kitchen and store room area.

No-one was in the building at the time and there were no injuries.

A spokeswoman for the club said the alarm was raised by a committee member who noticed the fire late on Tuesday night.

She said they were waiting on fire crews to return to the clubhouse on Wednesday to assess the damage to the remainder of the building.


Maybe it was accidental seeing as the fire officer didn't suspect anything? It did seem to be based around a store/kitchen area which is likely to have had flammable liquids around. Jumping to conclusions is a major problem around here.

stew

Is rodger the tr**p that was banned from the lowest of the low website OWC?

They didn't want to but then they realized that Orior named the proposed stadia at the Maze " The Orange Bowl!

Fecking brilliant post but those hoors have no funny bone!

Finally the situation seems to be, if they stop burning our social claub we will stop setting to their temples of division & hate!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.