Queens withdraw from McKenna Cup

ck · January 13, 2013, 12:49:18 PM

That's a really poor article. Higher Education GAA is always been internally flawed in terms of how it's administrated, and it would appear not to have improved. A few junior hitlers have always highjacked it keeping integrity low. For the CA chairman to come out and criticise a college for taking a difficult stand is pretty poor form on many levels. Most right minded people support queens stance and know that the Ulster council have performed poorly against power hungry county managers. I would have expected the colleges to stand together as one on this but when you have the CA chair spouting nonsense then it is problematic. GAA administrators have failed the players on this, not the colleges. GAA admin folk only have self interests at heart, especially in HE GAA.

Throw ball · January 13, 2013, 07:23:39 PM

CK I would consider myself a right minded person but would not support Queens on this issue. My argument being that as an educational establishment their duty was to give other players the opportunity to learn on a football field when the best were not there. The time to pull out was before the draw was made if they were aware they were going to miss players. Now this is completely different than saying I think the Ulster council are correct. To me they should enforce the rules to the letter. It is also not helpful that the universities are not acting together on this. What will happen next year? Will 2 universities compete and Queens not? They should stand together. Sadly this time next year I feel we will be discussing the same thing with Queens lonely stand a waste of time. I hope not.

ck · January 13, 2013, 08:38:39 PM

Quote from: Throw ball on January 13, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
CK I would consider myself a right minded person but would not support Queens on this issue. My argument being that as an educational establishment their duty was to give other players the opportunity to learn on a football field when the best were not there. The time to pull out was before the draw was made if they were aware they were going to miss players. Now this is completely different than saying I think the Ulster council are correct. To me they should enforce the rules to the letter. It is also not helpful that the universities are not acting together on this. What will happen next year? Will 2 universities compete and Queens not? They should stand together. Sadly this time next year I feel we will be discussing the same thing with Queens lonely stand a waste of time. I hope not.

I don't disagree. All three colleges should have withdrawn, but I have heard since that the mcKenna cup money paid to the colleges was too important to st Marys and uuj. IMO queens have shown backbone and principle. The point I keep making is that if queens didnt withdraw would any of us even know the issues?
I agree, colleges should always aim to make sure players will learn. I was involved with a college team in the past and would always have taken that view. Will uuj and st Marys have "learned" much from taking hammerings? Apart from how much they need their county men back. It's hardly the best way to build a team ahead of Sigerson cup?

theticklemister · January 15, 2013, 01:32:37 PM

Queens hosting GAA talk night, wan guess who they invite................

Mickey Fart

ck · January 17, 2013, 09:24:15 PM

I note with interest that Saint Marys college in Belfast have now stated that they may pull out of the McKenna cup too if the ulster council can't find a resolution. It will be a shame to see the colleges leave but it's pointless them being in it to be fair, if the wasters in ulster council can't support them

theticklemister · January 17, 2013, 09:50:08 PM

I cant see how some managers think by beating half of a half team is good.

What can mickey harte take from last night for example?

Throw ball · January 17, 2013, 10:22:13 PM

Quote from: ck on January 17, 2013, 09:24:15 PM
I note with interest that Saint Marys college in Belfast have now stated that they may pull out of the McKenna cup too if the ulster council can't find a resolution. It will be a shame to see the colleges leave but it's pointless them being in it to be fair, if the wasters in ulster council can't support them

I think this is the right time for St. Mary's to bring this up.

TheCops · January 17, 2013, 11:30:51 PM

Section B P Won Draw Lost Pts For Against

Down 2 1 0 0 2 31 25
Cavan 2 1 0 1 2 30 28
Queen's 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Armagh 2 0 0 1 0 23 35

Queen's have acquitted themselves quite well, finishing above Armagh in Group B.

Certainly the stand out performance of the three colleges.

Aaron Boone · January 18, 2013, 12:22:52 AM

Bad January for colleges. Did any win anywhere?

ck · January 18, 2013, 12:35:13 AM

Quote from: TheCops on January 17, 2013, 11:30:51 PM

Section B P Won Draw Lost Pts For Against

Down 2 1 0 0 2 31 25
Cavan 2 1 0 1 2 30 28
Queen's 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Armagh 2 0 0 1 0 23 35

Queen's have acquitted themselves quite well, finishing above Armagh in Group B.

Certainly the stand out performance of the three colleges.

LOL you cheeky so and so. Armagh perhaps should have broken the rules and taken all the college lads. Oh actually eh....

rrhf · January 18, 2013, 12:36:39 AM

Armagh football at lowest ebb

ck · January 18, 2013, 12:40:24 AM

Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 18, 2013, 12:22:52 AM
Bad January for colleges. Did any win anywhere?

DIT, DCU and UCC all won games to the best of my knowledge but of course thy all play with their county men. Most teams were pretty competitive bar the 2 northern colleges who were tanked as expected.

rodney trotter · January 18, 2013, 11:20:26 AM

Quote from: ck on January 18, 2013, 12:40:24 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 18, 2013, 12:22:52 AM
Bad January for colleges. Did any win anywhere?

DIT, DCU and UCC all won games to the best of my knowledge but of course thy all play with their county men. Most teams were pretty competitive bar the 2 northern colleges who were tanked as expected.

Sligo It were far from competitive, two bad beatings. Missing a few players like Eugene Keating, GMIT got hammered aswell in both games so far. So not just the Northern colleges.

rodney trotter · January 18, 2013, 11:26:41 AM

Forget to mention Athlone It, who don't have many big name players anyway. Also hammered in each game in the O'Byrne Cup and Tralee game hammered in each game in the Mcgrath Cup.

You are slightly obsessed about Queens pulling out give it a rest

ck · January 19, 2013, 12:11:11 AM

Quote from: rodney trotter on January 18, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
Forget to mention Athlone It, who don't have many big name players anyway. Also hammered in each game in the O'Byrne Cup and Tralee game hammered in each game in the Mcgrath Cup.

You are slightly obsessed about Queens pulling out give it a rest

Don't let Sligo ITs score line fool you into thinking they weren't competitive. Not obsessed with queens pulling out, obsessed with the lack of competence within the ulster council