americas problem with communism?

[Mike Sheehy]

So the man with 23 acres wants the world to go communist 

God love you, you are a lunatic !

[lawnseed]

Lawnseed. The World. Communism. Lovely.

::)i am not promoting communism as a system of governance. i am merely asking what is "Americas problem with communism?" in the handful of posts so far on this question no one has yet given a plausible reason for such venom against communism. the one thing that gets yanks going is the 'battle' against communism and yet Americans are perfectly happy to tr**p over injured and sick Americans on American streets who don't have medical insurance. the government of this great democracy are happy to intern US citizens never mind foreigners indefinitely. WE know how that went. if communism is such a failed system why are Americans so afraid of OTHER countries trying it out. the US meddled in the political affairs of south American countries that they saw developing Marxist type ideologies by actively promoting and aiding criminal gangs in those countries in efforts to destabilise them. they actually bombed south American government buildings killing all that were inside then introducing punitive sanctions announcing how they would bring that country 'back to the stoneage'. whats that about? why do they care?

well mikey all this time you were asking and waiting to tell me about my 23 acres.. and how i was a lunatic i told you TWICE to read the thread.. you didnt bother.. 

[Gallybander]

I went out with this girl over in America once.
She actually thought all countries in Europe (that she'd heard of) like France and Germany were Communist or ex-Communist. And this was why they weren't supporting the yanks in Eye-rack.

Suffice to say, we didn't go out on a second date.

[Mike Sheehy]

Lawnseed. The World. Communism. Lovely.

i am not promoting communism as a system of governance. i am merely asking what is "Americas problem with communism?" in the handful of posts so far on this question no one has yet given a plausible reason for such venom against communism. the one thing that gets yanks going is the 'battle' against communism and yet Americans are perfectly happy to tr**p over injured and sick Americans on American streets who don't have medical insurance. the government of this great democracy are happy to intern US citizens never mind foreigners indefinitely. WE know how that went. if communism is such a failed system why are Americans so afraid of OTHER countries trying it out. the US meddled in the political affairs of south American countries that they saw developing Marxist type ideologies by actively promoting and aiding criminal gangs in those countries in efforts to destabilise them. they actually bombed south American government buildings killing all that were inside then introducing punitive sanctions announcing how they would bring that country 'back to the stoneage'. whats that about? why do they care?

well mikey all this time you were asking and waiting to tell me about my 23 acres.. and how i was a lunatic i told you TWICE to read the thread.. you didnt bother.. 

whats your problem with Communism lawnseed..? why would you NOT promote it as a system of governance ?

[Mike Sheehy]

Lawnseed ...this thread just never quite took off the way you expected did it 

[lawnseed]

Lawnseed ...this thread just never quite took off the way you expected did it 

i'm going to say it once more. WHAT IS AMERICAS PROBLEM WITH COMMUNISM? jeezas its what the whole thread is about! its not about me and my hobby farm or the tellys in my house or anything to do with me. i want to know why 'YOU' think the americans are happy to assassinate the democratically elected government of an impoverished south american country using american navy bombers just because it has marxist tendenancies. btw i'm irish and have no links to said government and own no land in any south american country. why do YOU think the americans did that mike? and why do you think they believe its ok or maybe you think its ok? this is not a trick question i'm merely soliciting your opinions/thoughts etc..

[thejuice]

Going back to my earlier posts about growth and resources.

Perhaps a nationalised oil/gas resource is a threat to the consumerist way of life (freedom is a political by-word for consumerism in case you didn't know), the sprawling suburbia of big houses 2 cars and little in the way of public transport. I assume you are talking about Chile, with Allende and then Pinochet. I'm not sure how in that case my theory holds up, it is just a theory.

But there has been a belief in washington and in some parts of europe among leading politicians that world peace and stability is within our grasp by democratization and opening all nations up to the free market. That way nations will enter a state of co-dependence on others realising that any attack on the other harms the self.

I posted this in another thread and I think it sums it up pretty well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuAj2F54bdo

[thejuice]

Also how are these guys doing, do they have a presidential candidate?

http://www.cpusa.org/

[Mike Sheehy]

Lawnseed ...this thread just never quite took off the way you expected did it 

i'm going to say it once more. WHAT IS AMERICAS PROBLEM WITH COMMUNISM? jeezas its what the whole thread is about! its not about me and my hobby farm or the tellys in my house or anything to do with me. i want to know why 'YOU' think the americans are happy to assassinate the democratically elected government of an impoverished south american country using american navy bombers just because it has marxist tendenancies. btw i'm irish and have no links to said government and own no land in any south american country. why do YOU think the americans did that mike? and why do you think they believe its ok or maybe you think its ok? this is not a trick question i'm merely soliciting your opinions/thoughts etc..

Oh its a "hobby" farm is it  I must say it is wonderful to see a man such as yourself drag himself away from his hobbies to champion the interests of impoverished South Americans. You are not just a Champagne socialist..you are the Dom Perignon of Champagne socialists !

anyway, the gist of the thread is that you want other people to explain to you why some other people have a problem with an ideology that you yourself would not promote as a system of governance..do I have that right ?

God, you must be a pain in the arse to be around...you dont just want to pick fights with people you AGREE with, you want to pick fights with people who EXPLAIN the motives of those you agree with 

[lawnseed]

i'd like to think your deliberately dodging the question, but its obvious you dont understand it. so its better that i just leave you warming youself in a puddle of your own self congratulating delusional piddle.

[trileacman]

i'd like to think your deliberately dodging the question, but its obvious you dont understand it. so its better that i just leave you warming youself in a puddle of your own self congratulating delusional piddle.

Great post.

[Eamonnca1]

recognising the fact that resources are finite. wouldnt it be more beneficial for the yanks to allow the rest of the world to be communist and they remain the only capitalist country, sure then they would truely rule the world seeing communism is such a basket case

Failed states, no matter where they are, are not in America's interest or the world's interest.

In any case communism leaves too many resources (the people in particular) untapped.  I don't accept this idea that one part of the world has to get poorer for another to get rich.  Living standards in the developing world have risen over the last few decades but this has not been accompanied by a corresponding widespread collapse in living standards in the west.

[Mike Sheehy]

i'd like to think your deliberately dodging the question, but its obvious you dont understand it. so its better that i just leave you warming youself in a puddle of your own self congratulating delusional piddle.

you haven't the balls to state your own position so why should anyone answer your question...? Since it was you the started the thread I think the bare minimum you should do is categorically state your own view on Communism before you attack anyone elses view on it.

[Eamonnca1]

i'd like to think your deliberately dodging the question, but its obvious you dont understand it. so its better that i just leave you warming youself in a puddle of your own self congratulating delusional piddle.

you haven't the balls to state your own position so why should anyone answer your question...? Since it was you the started the thread I think the bare minimum you should do is categorically state your own view on Communism before you attack anyone elses view on it.

Thank you! His question was answered here, three pages into the thread, but he didn't seem terribly interested in discussing that post.

[muppet]

i'd like to think your deliberately dodging the question, but its obvious you dont understand it. so its better that i just leave you warming youself in a puddle of your own self congratulating delusional piddle.

Great post.

Actually too good. Hmmm.