Overseas GAA teams wasting their time travelling

Started by Eamonnca1, September 26, 2011, 11:28:34 PM

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Eamonnca1

Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on September 27, 2011, 05:08:42 PM
The senior club All Ireland started in the 1970's like wise with the ladies All Ireland,
both have got attendances over 30,000.
However the intermediate and junior All Ireland club were only start in last decade and would not get close to 30,000.
(I think it is good that all the above get their day out in Croke Park).

Getting "your day out in Croke Park" would be okay as long as you get 30,000 at it. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO. If you want to play in the big stadium, move up to the higher grades of competition. You wouldn't put a Junior C final in Croke, would you?

Why?

Because of the sentence that comes after. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO.

tommysmith

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on September 27, 2011, 05:08:42 PM
The senior club All Ireland started in the 1970's like wise with the ladies All Ireland,
both have got attendances over 30,000.
However the intermediate and junior All Ireland club were only start in last decade and would not get close to 30,000.
(I think it is good that all the above get their day out in Croke Park).

Getting "your day out in Croke Park" would be okay as long as you get 30,000 at it. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO. If you want to play in the big stadium, move up to the higher grades of competition. You wouldn't put a Junior C final in Croke, would you?

Why?

Because of the sentence that comes after. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO.
You are on a wind up or are totally out of touch of what GAA is about.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on September 27, 2011, 05:08:42 PM
The senior club All Ireland started in the 1970's like wise with the ladies All Ireland,
both have got attendances over 30,000.
However the intermediate and junior All Ireland club were only start in last decade and would not get close to 30,000.
(I think it is good that all the above get their day out in Croke Park).

Getting "your day out in Croke Park" would be okay as long as you get 30,000 at it. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO. If you want to play in the big stadium, move up to the higher grades of competition. You wouldn't put a Junior C final in Croke, would you?

Why?

Because of the sentence that comes after. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO.
You are on a wind up or are totally out of touch of what GAA is about.
What is it about in this context? Not every All-Ireland final at all grades will be played in Croker.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:31:41 PM
You are on a wind up or are totally out of touch of what GAA is about.

I'm well aware of what it's about thank you very much.  I hear the argument that it's a great honour to play in Croke Park in an all-Ireland final, but all-Ireland finals in junior grades? Come on! Playing in Croke should be a recognition that you've reached the highest level of the game. Junior grades are not the highest level of the game, there's plenty of room above you before you get to the top.

tommysmith

Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2011, 11:05:57 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 27, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on September 27, 2011, 05:08:42 PM
The senior club All Ireland started in the 1970's like wise with the ladies All Ireland,
both have got attendances over 30,000.
However the intermediate and junior All Ireland club were only start in last decade and would not get close to 30,000.
(I think it is good that all the above get their day out in Croke Park).

Getting "your day out in Croke Park" would be okay as long as you get 30,000 at it. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO. If you want to play in the big stadium, move up to the higher grades of competition. You wouldn't put a Junior C final in Croke, would you?

Why?

Because of the sentence that comes after. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO.
You are on a wind up or are totally out of touch of what GAA is about.
What is it about in this context? Not every All-Ireland final at all grades will be played in Croker.

True they dont but alot do and most people would not have a problem with that but this Eamonnca1 dude seem to think that Croke Park should only be used for Elite games.

blanketattack

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 06:25:51 PM

Getting "your day out in Croke Park" would be okay as long as you get 30,000 at it. Anything less is a waste of resources and devalues the prestige of playing in Croke Park IMHO. If you want to play in the big stadium, move up to the higher grades of competition. You wouldn't put a Junior C final in Croke, would you?

This whole "Croke Park needs a crowd of 30,000 people to break even" is a complete misnomer.
When they're expecting a sell-out, then the cost of all the various staff such as stewards, security, chefs, barstaff, etc. is offset by the revenue earned from 30,000 people. Everything after that is profit.
If they're expecting a crowd of 30,000 people and they reduce the number of staff required according, then they can reduce the costs so that they're offset by the revenue earned from 18,000 people and everything after that is profit.
If they're only expecting 1,500, they can use a skeleton staff and their costs are only about €20,000.

Stall the Bailer

No matter what level these competitions are, (junior, senior or whatever) it is All-Ireland titles being played for. The status of an All Ireland final is fitting of our best venue (Croke Park) in my opinion.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 11:41:11 PMI hear the argument that it's a great honour to play in Croke Park in an all-Ireland final, but all-Ireland finals in junior grades?

As a man that was there videotaping the games (thanks for posting by the way) - did the Junior, Intermediate and Senior Football teams all play on the same pitch in San Fransisco at the NACB finals a few weeks ago?

Likewise the Hurling, Ladies Football and Camogie teams?


Eamonnca1

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 29, 2011, 09:07:18 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 27, 2011, 11:41:11 PMI hear the argument that it's a great honour to play in Croke Park in an all-Ireland final, but all-Ireland finals in junior grades?

As a man that was there videotaping the games (thanks for posting by the way) - did the Junior, Intermediate and Senior Football teams all play on the same pitch in San Fransisco at the NACB finals a few weeks ago?

Likewise the Hurling, Ladies Football and Camogie teams?

There was five fields in total.  The main field was used for the senior competitions in all codes. Lower grades played on the other fields.