Who will follow Donegal?

Mike Sheehy · August 31, 2011, 08:42:28 AM

and, while we are at it, I have already asked before (I think it was in reference to bogball) but I'll ask again, why do you Derrymen insist on licking Tyrones arse..? seriously, have you no pride in your county ? No Kerryman would EVER use a Cork sucess to score points in some argument against another county yet you are always on her slabbering about Tyrone....I am officiallly diagnosing this as the "Brolly" disease..

..seriously, its hard to take you lads seriously. No pride at all

sheamy · August 31, 2011, 08:46:07 AM

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 31, 2011, 08:42:28 AM
and, while we are at it, I have already asked before (I think it was in reference to bogball) but I'll ask again, why do you Derrymen insist of licking Tyrones arse..? seriously, have you no pride in your county ? No Kerryman would EVER use a Cork sucess to score points in some argument against another county yet you are always on her slabbering about Tyrone....I am officiallly diagnozing this as the "Brolly" disease..

..seriously, its hard to take you lads seriously. No pride at all

deadly craic. Well don't lump us all in together into a collective known as nordies then

We're a very diverse bunch you know...

It's always Ulster style or Nordern style (as Pat says).

I agree with you though! Especially the 'Brolly' disease. Great term. Can you get Spillane to say that on air? Catch 22. By using these phrases you boys have created the disease of Brolly (still luving this phrase).

sheamy · August 31, 2011, 08:51:39 AM

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 31, 2011, 08:35:29 AM
No Ulster side will ever beat kerry unless they use negative tactics. You simply dont have the natural footballers to take us on playing football.
Its nothing personal. Its just genetics. You simply dont have the natural talent.sorry.

bit like the 'star' from beragh then

Mike Sheehy · August 31, 2011, 08:55:24 AM

You haven't answered the question...how can a proud Derryman rely on a supposedly deadly rival to "score points" when having a go at Kerry.
Do you not see how that makes you just another Nordie jumping on whatever Nordie bandwagon is rolling by ?

At least in Kerry we take the highs and the lows as kerrymen, sure of our identity. Its funny how you lads slag the OWC crowd about this very thing yet you are exactly the same !

Mike Sheehy · August 31, 2011, 08:56:39 AM

Quote from: sheamy on August 31, 2011, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 31, 2011, 08:35:29 AM
No Ulster side will ever beat kerry unless they use negative tactics. You simply dont have the natural footballers to take us on playing football.
Its nothing personal. Its just genetics. You simply dont have the natural talent.sorry.

bit like the 'star' from beragh then

we knocked the Tyrone out of him. Turned him into a proper footballer.

haze · August 31, 2011, 09:20:17 AM

Laois played with a two man forward line all year with everyone else's responsibility to retreat into defence once possession was lost. Got promoted out of division two using these tactics. Now they were not as physically fit or conditioned as the Donegal lads and dont have the same quality over the field overall but apart from that the style of football is almost the exact same. While it worked in the league, it was totally found out in the championship. The Laois Donegal league final was one of the worst matches i was ever at.

Even with a new manager and a successful league campaign, I have never seen less people turn out to support the Laois team in the championship. We played two championship games in Portlaoise this year and the support was pathetic. Bottom line is apart from the hard core support, no one wants to watch their county play football play in this way.

I just fear other counties similar to Laois will unsuccessfully try to follow the Donegal way, and we will have to endure an increased number of mind numbingly boring games of football next year

sheamy · August 31, 2011, 09:20:30 AM

You have a point Mike. Ulster is unique like that. Probably the history involved. By and large when an Ulster team reaches the latter end of the championship, the others row in behind. Donegal made history last weekend by breaking that trend. It was some acheivement!

There's a certain pride in the fact that five Ulster counties won the AI since 1991 (be a long time happening in Munster or anywhere else). The inherent jealousies and respect drove the other counties on. Also belief. It's the same sense of pride I suppose in the fact that Kerry couldn't beat Down in the 60's either. I suppose that makes me a Down lover too. That's fine though.

In fact, Kerry resorted to name calling at that stage as well (a la puke football). The crime of that time was that the ball wasn't being kicked directly to the man but rather into space for forwards to run onto. This didn't sit well with the masters of the catch and kick universe. This isn't football we were told. It still rankles with Micko as he freely admits. That's however what makes ye boys great - the fact that ye are such bad losers. It's a great trait to have.

To be honest I'd look to Kerry before anyone else. Ye don't seem to need development squads, minor teams, u21 teams or feck all else. Am also impressed by the urgency in which the panic button around these teams was pressed this year when ye see nothing coming through, and a whole host of heavyweight managers hoisted into minor and u21s. Shows massive pride in the county to have that calibre of men go back in and take minor and u21 teams. I only wish we had that. We might get a chance to argue about our own two teams a bit more often.

Oh jesus, this makes me a Kerry lover now too. I need help.

Mike Sheehy · August 31, 2011, 11:15:29 AM

It is strange alright. I've never figured out this love/hate thing with Kerry that northern teams have. Ye just want to beat us so much more than we care about beating you.Why is that ?

sheamy · August 31, 2011, 12:26:56 PM

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 31, 2011, 11:15:29 AM
It is strange alright. I've never figured out this love/hate thing with Kerry that northern teams have. Ye just want to beat us so much more than we care about beating you.Why is that ?

Not sure that's true or where you get that. You're probably equating winning all-irelands with beating Kerry. Some of the time they coincide. I never at any point said anyone had a love of beating Kerry. Winning all-irelands was my point. Kerry are just another team who happen to be in the latter stages more than most.

Fear ón Srath Bán · August 31, 2011, 12:56:43 PM

Quote from: sheamy on August 31, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
Not sure that's true or where you get that. You're probably equating winning all-irelands with beating Kerry. Some of the time they coincide. I never at any point said anyone had a love of beating Kerry. Winning all-irelands was my point. Kerry are just another team who happen to be in the latter stages more than most.

You're on a beaten docket there I fear. Attempting to get that particular individual to doff his green and gold (rose) suffused glasses is akin to sculpting mercury at room temperature: ~~well nigh~~ feckin' impossible!

sheamy · August 31, 2011, 02:12:19 PM

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 31, 2011, 12:56:43 PM
Quote from: sheamy on August 31, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
Not sure that's true or where you get that. You're probably equating winning all-irelands with beating Kerry. Some of the time they coincide. I never at any point said anyone had a love of beating Kerry. Winning all-irelands was my point. Kerry are just another team who happen to be in the latter stages more than most.

You're on a beaten docket there I fear. Attempting to get that particular individual to doff his green and gold (rose) suffused glasses is akin to sculpting mercury at room temperature: ~~well nigh~~ feckin' impossible!

oh I know. He's good craic though

Fear ón Srath Bán · August 31, 2011, 02:48:24 PM

Quote from: sheamy on August 31, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
oh I know. He's well cracked though

Fixed that for you!

Armaghgeddon · September 01, 2011, 02:22:11 PM

Quote from: haze on August 31, 2011, 09:20:17 AM
Laois played with a two man forward line all year with everyone else's responsibility to retreat into defence once possession was lost. Got promoted out of division two using these tactics. Now they were not as physically fit or conditioned as the Donegal lads and dont have the same quality over the field overall but apart from that the style of football is almost the exact same. While it worked in the league, it was totally found out in the championship. The Laois Donegal league final was one of the worst matches i was ever at.

Even with a new manager and a successful league campaign, I have never seen less people turn out to support the Laois team in the championship. We played two championship games in Portlaoise this year and the support was pathetic. Bottom line is apart from the hard core support, no one wants to watch their county play football play in this way.

I just fear other counties similar to Laois will unsuccessfully try to follow the Donegal way, and we will have to endure an increased number of mind numbingly boring games of football next year

Laughable. Maybe it has something to do with the county being shite at football as of late? Or maybe you are a county full of glory supporters - who will only turn out when theres something to be won. If any county used Donegal's style of play after years of dissapointment and then had a good chance of appearing in an AI final everyone would want tickets no matter the style. I know plenty of Donegal people who slated Armagh's style of play over the years and now wouldnt hear a bad word said about it.