Poor Hurling Final???

[thewobbler]

Jinxy, I'm like a fat American tourist when it comes to hurling. I understand the concept because it's based on the same structures as football, but I find some of it quite bizarre (like why anyone would actually want to play a game where you can get hit by a stick).

The pause and expectations that arise from a sideline ball are rarely, rarely warranted. It's mad that a game in which all other aspects of it are universal in the use of your hands as well as the stick, are put to the side for these restarts. 

[Jinxy]

They should reward the skill with 2 points for striking it directly over.
Plenty of lads around that can do it.

[Billys Boots]

They should reward the skill with 2 points for striking it directly over.
Plenty of lads around that can do it.

Wasn't that an experimental rule at one point?

[spuds]

They should reward the skill with 2 points for striking it directly over.
Plenty of lads around that can do it.

Wasn't that an experimental rule at one point?

At 2 points

[Applesisapples]

Yeah, thought it was pretty average. Agree with Jinxy too, hurling is now a sport without rules.

I thought Gavin was poor, and was hard on Kilkenny.

I thought he was good, consistent and let the game flow, yes he was picky on over carrying at times but as I said consistent. Ulster refs take note.

[Zulu]

What does letting the game flow mean? Ignoring numerous fouls?

[Billys Boots]

They should reward the skill with 2 points for striking it directly over.
Plenty of lads around that can do it.

Wasn't that an experimental rule at one point?

At 2 points

Har de har har. 

[Jinxy]

What does letting the game flow mean? Ignoring numerous fouls?

Pretty much.

[Minder]

What does letting the game flow mean? Ignoring numerous fouls?

That's what he did, he was very inconsistent in what he blew for and what he didn't.

[AQMP]

What does letting the game flow mean? Ignoring numerous fouls?

I believe if you listen carefully the official GAA term is "he left the game flow"

[Jinxy]

To my mind, letting the game flow means turning a blind eye to the small stuff but blowing the big stuff i.e. lads swinging out of you when you're trying to play the ball.
The amount of times a Tipp player caught the ball in the 2nd half only to land and be jumped on by 3 KK lads was ridiculous.
Very frustrating to watch.

[Rossfan]

You'd think they'd have the dacency to let the Tipp lad alone to go off and do his thing instead of harassing the poor devil.
Like Waterford in the Munster final.

[Bord na Mona man]

Once players know they are unlikely to get a free easily they make a big effort to play the ball. A player with 2 fellas on his back hauling him to the deck will still make a diving handpass to get it away.

The way football is policed these days, players go to ground looking for the free as soon as they feel the breath of an opponent.

Because the hurling genepool is much smaller there is less demand for penalities on tough/rough play. Also the elite counties are probably the ones who master it best. If Limerick or Wexford or Galway started to beat the big three in All Irelands by out toughing them, then there would be calls for a clamp down.

Take the Tommy Walsh hit on the ref yesterday. If something similar happened in football - we'll say Paul Galvin swinging a boot to kick an opponent and connecting with the ref's shin instead, there would be holy war.

[johnneycool]

Once players know they are unlikely to get a free easily they make a big effort to play the ball. A player with 2 fellas on his back hauling him to the deck will still make a diving handpass to get it away.

The way football is policed these days, players go to ground looking for the free as soon as they feel the breath of an opponent.

Because the hurling genepool is much smaller there is less demand for penalities on tough/rough play. Also the elite counties are probably the ones who master it best. If Limerick or Wexford or Galway started to beat the big three in All Irelands by out toughing them, then there would be calls for a clamp down.

Take the Tommy Walsh hit on the ref yesterday. If something similar happened in football - we'll say Paul Galvin swinging a boot to kick an opponent and connecting with the ref's shin instead, there would be holy war.

Certainly a lot of the senior championship games are referred very differently to what you'd see elsewhere and TBH the games better for it.

The players seem to be more accepting that they're going to get the odd belt or two and plough on regardless. If that was a club game in the north, there'd be full scale ructions for half the stuff let go on sunday, so maybe referee's aren't as inclined to let it go as it'll mean the game getting out of hand.

What comes first, the chicken or the egg?

In the minor game, one of the Galway forwards was clotheslined by a Dublin lad and he jumped right up rather than make a meal of it, heartening to see.

[johnpower]

By the way, the ref swallowing his whistle doesn't make the game more free-flowing.
Some amount of rucks and mauls yesterday.

I agree ,yet there never seems to be any discussion (ever) with all the pundits having the same views .