Short Strand under attack

Started by Forever Green, June 20, 2011, 10:42:32 PM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2011, 08:26:19 PM
Can anyone throw light on the point Newton Emerson made in the IN on sat regarding the 80million "social investment fund" and his opinion that the UVF, by kicking off these riots, were essentially were making a grant application?

Why is there not more investigations into what these type of incidents are about. Instead we get vague comments about "dealing with the issues" without details of what these really are.

Are we going to perpetually encouraging these fcuks to keep doing what they are do every time they lose their "funding"?

That sorta stuff has been happening for years, the Peace fund is nearly dried up, the European money is long gone and a few of the other package deals are nearly all gone. Was offered a job in one of the 'Partnerships' a few years ago. The office where I was supposed to work on the Falls has changed it's name about 6 times in those years!!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

armagho9

Cant say i care too much or give much thought to what the Orange Order get up to or what their policies are.  Could be wrong on this, but do the not forbid any member from marrying a catholic?  Do they not forbid any member from attending a catholic mass?  Not sure if these rules apply to any other religion or whether its just catholicism that their hatred is reserved for but for any idiot to suggest these rules are not sectarian is f***ing brain dead and not worth wasting time on.

To suggest the catholic religion (which i am no big fan off either) applies the same rules is ridiculous

Minder

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2011, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2011, 08:26:19 PM
Can anyone throw light on the point Newton Emerson made in the IN on sat regarding the 80million "social investment fund" and his opinion that the UVF, by kicking off these riots, were essentially were making a grant application?

Why is there not more investigations into what these type of incidents are about. Instead we get vague comments about "dealing with the issues" without details of what these really are.

Are we going to perpetually encouraging these fcuks to keep doing what they are do every time they lose their "funding"?

That sorta stuff has been happening for years, the Peace fund is nearly dried up, the European money is long gone and a few of the other package deals are nearly all gone. Was offered a job in one of the 'Partnerships' a few years ago. The office where I was supposed to work on the Falls has changed it's name about 6 times in those years!!

It hasnt gone yet. The begging bowl is still out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13919416
The European commissioner for regional policy has said he will do everything in his power to ensure Northern Ireland gets another tranche of peace money.

Johannes Hahn was speaking after a meeting with the first and deputy first ministers at the opening of the new bridge over the River Foyle on Saturday.

The money for the bridge came from the 333m euro (£295.5m) Peace 3 programme.

Commissioner Hahn said he would work towards making more money available.

"I will do everything to make sure that the money will be available in the future," he said.

"But as you might have heard, the British government is not in favour of spending a lot of money on European projects.

"We hope that at the end of the day we will find a positive solution so that all these projects can continue and further contribute to the development of the region."
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Minder on June 26, 2011, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2011, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2011, 08:26:19 PM
Can anyone throw light on the point Newton Emerson made in the IN on sat regarding the 80million "social investment fund" and his opinion that the UVF, by kicking off these riots, were essentially were making a grant application?

Why is there not more investigations into what these type of incidents are about. Instead we get vague comments about "dealing with the issues" without details of what these really are.

Are we going to perpetually encouraging these fcuks to keep doing what they are do every time they lose their "funding"?

That sorta stuff has been happening for years, the Peace fund is nearly dried up, the European money is long gone and a few of the other package deals are nearly all gone. Was offered a job in one of the 'Partnerships' a few years ago. The office where I was supposed to work on the Falls has changed it's name about 6 times in those years!!

It hasnt gone yet. The begging bowl is still out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13919416
The European commissioner for regional policy has said he will do everything in his power to ensure Northern Ireland gets another tranche of peace money.

Johannes Hahn was speaking after a meeting with the first and deputy first ministers at the opening of the new bridge over the River Foyle on Saturday.

The money for the bridge came from the 333m euro (£295.5m) Peace 3 programme.

Commissioner Hahn said he would work towards making more money available.

"I will do everything to make sure that the money will be available in the future," he said.

"But as you might have heard, the British government is not in favour of spending a lot of money on European projects.

"We hope that at the end of the day we will find a positive solution so that all these projects can continue and further contribute to the development of the region."


Let the good times roll
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

orangeman

This European "peace" money is great crack.

The money must have ran out last week and a top up was sent for.


We'll have to get a wee schemozzle going down our way here - it can't all be going to the city folk.

theskull1

#185
Whenever we see the way that scumbags "intelligently" engineer problems to ensure they don't have to normalise themselves with the rest of society (i.e go out and work for it), serious questions need to be asked of our political representatives who are essential feeding a very unhealthy addiction within these communities. What chance do communities have when the scumbags in those areas are the ones seen to be benefitting from their own destructive behaviour?

Why is there no serious commentary about what the UVF are doing here? Are the DUP & SF happy to silience them by paying them off for a while longer because to call it like it is may shine a light on the other areas when this type of funding is going?
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Oraisteach

Yes, Fitzroyalty, it's not quite July yet, but I'd say we're off and running.

First the Short Strand and, say it ain't so, Newtownbutler, Fermanagh.

WWJD? (Well, well, John Deignan?  John being EG's Sligonian who was both intrigued and delighted by his Club Orange RiverBrooke experience)

Perhaps a July itinerary of all the hot spots (pardon the pun) would be in order, John.

Where next, I wonder.

theskull1

Lets keep following the money here people. Can we have more comments in regards to scumbags trying to get there hands on peace money
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Evil Genius

Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2011, 10:16:09 PMLets keep following the money here people. Can we have more comments in regards to scumbags trying to get there hands on peace money
I'm disgusted that the best comment on this whole public disgrace has gone unheeded:



Wednesday, 29 June 2011
UVF jail call after riots

A call has been made for active members of the UVF - released from prison early under the Good Friday Agreement - to be sent back behind bars, in the wake of riots in east Belfast.

Chairman of the Police Federation, Terry Spence, has called for action to be taken by the Secretary of State against the proscribed organisation.

"We cannot tolerate paramilitary groups creating public havoc because they think they have no voice in how Northern Ireland is governed," he said.

"They have exactly the same access to the ballot box and opportunity to stand for election as the rest of us."

http://www.u.tv/News/Police-Federation-chief-demands-UVF-arrests/c58b4d42-96d2-486a-9277-93e69f88b9e6
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"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

theskull1

Quote from: Evil Genius on July 07, 2011, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2011, 10:16:09 PMLets keep following the money here people. Can we have more comments in regards to scumbags trying to get there hands on peace money
I'm disgusted that the best comment on this whole public disgrace has gone unheeded:

Probably ended their association with this thread after I used "there" instead of "their". There are people of rail principal when it comes to spelling/grammatical errors like that. Fair play  :-\

Just how many orginisations/people are getting their hands on these monies? Is anyone able to elucidate.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera