Sigerson should be resiricted to undergraduates and 4 years play ?

[Maiden1]

How many has he?

4 I think.  3 with Tralee and 1 with Jordanstown

[muppet]

It's a bit ironic this statement coming out with this considering the recruitment application process for DCU.

All this started with Tralee 20 years ago, when it was an IT and the respected Kerry Trainer Pat Flanagan made his mark with Val Andrews training a Harlem Globetrotters team that included such luminaries as the current Donegal manager Jimmy McGuinness.
They more or less over powered teams by getting inter-county or just below inter-county standard players to play for them.
While they were accused of 'tempting' players they did put in place a very professional program and produced some wonderful footballers.

It was never a wing of the Cork County Board, though since there was obviously a big Cork attendance some Cork players benefitted from the experience. But to suggest this is the case now is idiotic!

In the North back then the competition for players was huge, but there were far less accusations of irregularities in the application system. They were helped by the complete lack of competition from an academic sense and free 3rd level education. Jordanstown and Queens were the only two GAA powerhouses in the north or near that region, (DKIT would have been next closest back then and DKIT weren't even in the Sigerson!)


But this all changed a few years ago when DCU took it on seriously to win a Sigerson.

DCU brought in players to do 'Post-Graduate' courses and between all of this accusations of improper conduct were whispered. As Cogito has listed there - it's pretty obvious what is still happening.

When that was very publicly stopped they had to find another way and this involved offering places to people without offering Post Grad courses.
So the next things was to offer Scholarship places on some courses to players students if they got within X marks of the course and the college would compensate the extra ones needed as they were an athlete (allegedly).
The fact that you can gain attendance to courses and get extra points (up to 100 points too!!!!) because you 'excel' in sport and get awarded a scholarship is ... well whatever...

It's always been done to some degree, it's just in the past 10 years some Uni's have taken it to a completely new level.

Good post  .