How to get rid of the immigrants, Danish style !

[muppet]

Coincidentally Ireland's most famous anti-semitic incident also happened in Limerick.

(Note I am not saying this gimp is anti-semitic as he seems to have a problem with all foreigners.)

[maddog]

This mayor is playing to the lowest common denominator for popularity reasons. He is FG in case anyone is wondering. I think it would be fair enough only if Irish people in other countries who were in a similar position were deported back to Ireland too. I wonder would the unemployment in this country then grow or decrease? I think we all know the answer to that one...

Well if ever end up on the dole they could deport me back to the UK.

[Master Yoda]

The Limerick Mayor has a view on this as well !!!!!!!!   

Limerick Mayor calls for deportations of unemployed immigrants
11/11/2009 - 12:27:05

The Mayor of Limerick has provoked outrage by calling for unemployed EU nationals to be deported.

Councillor Kevin Kiely says anyone living here who "can't afford to pay for themselves" should be sent home after three months.

Mayor Kiely is denying accusations that his comments amount to racism, but they have sparked calls for his resignation with local Labour MEP Alan Kelly slamming them as "outrageous".

I think this is fair enough.

[An Gaeilgoir]

As usual though any comments that are not PC are labeled racist, outrageous blah, blah, so we will never have a reasoned debate on the matter. Most of this PC brigade live in affluent areas away from the gettos that will be created by long term unemployed immigrants, so as usual its the ordinary Joe that gets left holding the bag. Look at Britian, large areas where no English is spoken, Fundamentalist laws in place and there is bugger all that can be done about it. There are areas of North County Dublin heading in the same direction, look at Balbriggan. Integration is all well and good  but lets have integration in all areas of Ireland and not just, Balbriggan, Ballymun and around Parnell street. Let the liberal and PC  people of Sandymount, D4 and other such places take their share of integration as well. Somehow i doubt this will happen.

[mylestheslasher]

As usual though any comments that are not PC are labeled racist, outrageous blah, blah, so we will never have a reasoned debate on the matter. Most of this PC brigade live in affluent areas away from the gettos that will be created by long term unemployed immigrants, so as usual its the ordinary Joe that gets left holding the bag. Look at Britian, large areas where no English is spoken, Fundamentalist laws in place and there is bugger all that can be done about it. There are areas of North County Dublin heading in the same direction, look at Balbriggan. Integration is all well and good  but lets have integration in all areas of Ireland and not just, Balbriggan, Ballymun and around Parnell street. Let the liberal and PC  people of Sandymount, D4 and other such places take their share of integration as well. Somehow i doubt this will happen.

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?

[Master Yoda]

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
Yes if they can't afford to keep themselves.

2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
Yes if they can't afford to keep themselves.

3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
No

4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?
No, if they have them are too easy to get.

[An Gaeilgoir]

As usual though any comments that are not PC are labeled racist, outrageous blah, blah, so we will never have a reasoned debate on the matter. Most of this PC brigade live in affluent areas away from the gettos that will be created by long term unemployed immigrants, so as usual its the ordinary Joe that gets left holding the bag. Look at Britian, large areas where no English is spoken, Fundamentalist laws in place and there is bugger all that can be done about it. There are areas of North County Dublin heading in the same direction, look at Balbriggan. Integration is all well and good  but lets have integration in all areas of Ireland and not just, Balbriggan, Ballymun and around Parnell street. Let the liberal and PC  people of Sandymount, D4 and other such places take their share of integration as well. Somehow i doubt this will happen.

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?

Reply to your comments;
1. If you are out of work in the UK/USA, you may as well come home as to get social payments there is very difficult. We even pay non-reisdents childrens allowance and social welfare.
2. I never once mentioned deportation in my comments. All i commented  on is the upper classes, coming out and been all for integration knowing well that the immigrant will never live in their areas or impact on their daily lives. it will be as usual the lower social classes who will be impacted on, health systems, schooling etc.
3. Again i never mentioned sending anyone anywhere. All i spoke of was integration in all areas of Ireland and no to end up with gettos as they have in the UK, France etc.
4. The breakdown of emmigrants is a lot higher in the lower socio economic areas of Ireland and the majority of the PC brigade as i said earlier, are of the higher socio economic group who will not  have to deal day to day with the problems that a lot of immigration into specific areas of the country will bring.

However it is time to have an open and frank debate on these matters, of course there will be hard line views, on both sides of the fence, i might add. if we do not want to have the problems that France and the UK have at the moment now is the time for this debate to happen.

[muppet]

As usual though any comments that are not PC are labeled racist, outrageous blah, blah, so we will never have a reasoned debate on the matter. Most of this PC brigade live in affluent areas away from the gettos that will be created by long term unemployed immigrants, so as usual its the ordinary Joe that gets left holding the bag. Look at Britian, large areas where no English is spoken, Fundamentalist laws in place and there is bugger all that can be done about it. There are areas of North County Dublin heading in the same direction, look at Balbriggan. Integration is all well and good  but lets have integration in all areas of Ireland and not just, Balbriggan, Ballymun and around Parnell street. Let the liberal and PC  people of Sandymount, D4 and other such places take their share of integration as well. Somehow i doubt this will happen.

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?

Reply to your comments;
1. If you are out of work in the UK/USA, you may as well come home as to get social payments there is very difficult. We even pay non-reisdents childrens allowance and social welfare.
2. I never once mentioned deportation in my comments. All i commented  on is the upper classes, coming out and been all for integration knowing well that the immigrant will never live in their areas or impact on their daily lives. it will be as usual the lower social classes who will be impacted on, health systems, schooling etc.
3. Again i never mentioned sending anyone anywhere. All i spoke of was integration in all areas of Ireland and no to end up with gettos as they have in the UK, France etc.
4. The breakdown of emmigrants is a lot higher in the lower socio economic areas of Ireland and the majority of the PC brigade as i said earlier, are of the higher socio economic group who will not  have to deal day to day with the problems that a lot of immigration into specific areas of the country will bring.

However it is time to have an open and frank debate on these matters, of course there will be hard line views, on both sides of the fence, i might add. if we do not want to have the problems that France and the UK have at the moment now is the time for this debate to happen.

This argument gets lost every time in easy stereotypes. Even the dreaded 'D4' is wheeled out. There are parts of Donnybrook that would shock most Indo readers.

[An Gaeilgoir]

As usual though any comments that are not PC are labeled racist, outrageous blah, blah, so we will never have a reasoned debate on the matter. Most of this PC brigade live in affluent areas away from the gettos that will be created by long term unemployed immigrants, so as usual its the ordinary Joe that gets left holding the bag. Look at Britian, large areas where no English is spoken, Fundamentalist laws in place and there is bugger all that can be done about it. There are areas of North County Dublin heading in the same direction, look at Balbriggan. Integration is all well and good  but lets have integration in all areas of Ireland and not just, Balbriggan, Ballymun and around Parnell street. Let the liberal and PC  people of Sandymount, D4 and other such places take their share of integration as well. Somehow i doubt this will happen.

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?

Reply to your comments;
1. If you are out of work in the UK/USA, you may as well come home as to get social payments there is very difficult. We even pay non-reisdents childrens allowance and social welfare.
2. I never once mentioned deportation in my comments. All i commented  on is the upper classes, coming out and been all for integration knowing well that the immigrant will never live in their areas or impact on their daily lives. it will be as usual the lower social classes who will be impacted on, health systems, schooling etc.
3. Again i never mentioned sending anyone anywhere. All i spoke of was integration in all areas of Ireland and no to end up with gettos as they have in the UK, France etc.
4. The breakdown of emmigrants is a lot higher in the lower socio economic areas of Ireland and the majority of the PC brigade as i said earlier, are of the higher socio economic group who will not  have to deal day to day with the problems that a lot of immigration into specific areas of the country will bring.

However it is time to have an open and frank debate on these matters, of course there will be hard line views, on both sides of the fence, i might add. if we do not want to have the problems that France and the UK have at the moment now is the time for this debate to happen.

This argument gets lost every time in easy stereotypes. Even the dreaded 'D4' is wheeled out. There are parts of Donnybrook that would shock most Indo readers.

Dont know about the Indo as i dont read it, but how many immigrants live in these higher socio economic areas as opposed to the lower socio economic areas?  it might be a stereotype as you call them, but travelling around Dublin every day, this also seems to be a reality. Lets have proper intergration in all areas and then the debate about lowering the tone of an area will soon raise its head. Look at all the traveller halting sites around the country. How many are in prime locations?.... Its easy to be a liberal when the issue is many miles away from one's posh upmarket door.

[armaghniac]

Dont know about the Indo as i dont read it, but how many immigrants live in these higher socio economic areas as opposed to the lower socio economic areas?  it might be a stereotype as you call them, but travelling around Dublin every day, this also seems to be a reality. Lets have proper intergration in all areas and then the debate about lowering the tone of an area will soon raise its head. Look at all the traveller halting sites around the country. How many are in prime locations?.... Its easy to be a liberal when the issue is many miles away from one's posh upmarket door.

There are immigrants and immigrants. Having a Scottish family next door is not a threat to social stability. One of the Dublin Mosques is in Clonskeagh, not exactly a slum. The reality is that many parts of Ireland e.g. Leixlip has significant numbers of foreigners who pose no great integration problems. But we should learn from the real problems in Britain and France. 

[mylestheslasher]

Dont know about the Indo as i dont read it, but how many immigrants live in these higher socio economic areas as opposed to the lower socio economic areas?  it might be a stereotype as you call them, but travelling around Dublin every day, this also seems to be a reality. Lets have proper intergration in all areas and then the debate about lowering the tone of an area will soon raise its head. Look at all the traveller halting sites around the country. How many are in prime locations?.... Its easy to be a liberal when the issue is many miles away from one's posh upmarket door.

There are immigrants and immigrants. Having a Scottish family next door is not a threat to social stability. One of the Dublin Mosques is in Clonskeagh, not exactly a slum. The reality is that many parts of Ireland e.g. Leixlip has significant numbers of foreigners who pose no great integration problems. But we should learn from the real problems in Britain and France.

There is a slight difference in England & France, mainly that they were empires and are now dealing with the consequences.

The reason that the eastern europeans live in the same areas in big cities is that they can only afford the cheaper accomodations as they are working for the cheapest wages. Are you suggesting that they should be given big houses in dalkey etc. There'd be some craic then with moaning about free houses. Many of these people worked here for years and paid there taxes and so are entitled to claim the dole. There are many Irish in this country that haven't done a tap of work and have made sponging an art form but no one wants to deport them. Blame the darkies or the ones that look different. That why English people seldom come up in conversation when we talk about immigrants sponging cos being western european we can't easily tell them apart from us until the open their mouths. I would put my house on it that there are more english in this country on the dole than poles.

[muppet]

As usual though any comments that are not PC are labeled racist, outrageous blah, blah, so we will never have a reasoned debate on the matter. Most of this PC brigade live in affluent areas away from the gettos that will be created by long term unemployed immigrants, so as usual its the ordinary Joe that gets left holding the bag. Look at Britian, large areas where no English is spoken, Fundamentalist laws in place and there is bugger all that can be done about it. There are areas of North County Dublin heading in the same direction, look at Balbriggan. Integration is all well and good  but lets have integration in all areas of Ireland and not just, Balbriggan, Ballymun and around Parnell street. Let the liberal and PC  people of Sandymount, D4 and other such places take their share of integration as well. Somehow i doubt this will happen.

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?

Reply to your comments;
1. If you are out of work in the UK/USA, you may as well come home as to get social payments there is very difficult. We even pay non-reisdents childrens allowance and social welfare.
2. I never once mentioned deportation in my comments. All i commented  on is the upper classes, coming out and been all for integration knowing well that the immigrant will never live in their areas or impact on their daily lives. it will be as usual the lower social classes who will be impacted on, health systems, schooling etc.
3. Again i never mentioned sending anyone anywhere. All i spoke of was integration in all areas of Ireland and no to end up with gettos as they have in the UK, France etc.
4. The breakdown of emmigrants is a lot higher in the lower socio economic areas of Ireland and the majority of the PC brigade as i said earlier, are of the higher socio economic group who will not  have to deal day to day with the problems that a lot of immigration into specific areas of the country will bring.

However it is time to have an open and frank debate on these matters, of course there will be hard line views, on both sides of the fence, i might add. if we do not want to have the problems that France and the UK have at the moment now is the time for this debate to happen.

This argument gets lost every time in easy stereotypes. Even the dreaded 'D4' is wheeled out. There are parts of Donnybrook that would shock most Indo readers.

Dont know about the Indo as i dont read it, but how many immigrants live in these higher socio economic areas as opposed to the lower socio economic areas?  it might be a stereotype as you call them, but travelling around Dublin every day, this also seems to be a reality. Lets have proper intergration in all areas and then the debate about lowering the tone of an area will soon raise its head. Look at all the traveller halting sites around the country. How many are in prime locations?.... Its easy to be a liberal when the issue is many miles away from one's posh upmarket door.

Easy answers and easy rhetoric. Of course it is a cover for more unpopular sentiments but it is braver to hide behind 'miles away from one's posh (not D4 anymore notice) upmarket door'.

[mylestheslasher]

And if someone states opposition to a "hardline" idea they get labelled as PC. Here are some questions for you.

1) Do you think Irish immigrants that can not get work in USA, Australia & UK etc should be deported back to Ireland?
Yes if they can't afford to keep themselves.

2) Should UK, German, French immigrants living here get deported back to their countries if they are unemployed?
Yes if they can't afford to keep themselves.

3) Should 2nd/3rd generation Irish with UK or other passports be apart of sending people "home"?
No

4) Do you know the breakdown of emigrants to this country cos I am willing to bet the most of them hold UK passports?
No, if they have them are too easy to get.

Master Yoda - If all Irish and 2nd gen Irish unemployed were to come home I think our dole queue would double overnight.

[maddog]

, Fundamentalist laws in place

Where ? And what laws ?

[ludermor]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1535478/Sharia-law-is-spreading-as-authority-wanes.html