Which Wing of the 'Wolfe Tones' do you Support?

[gallsman]

Their explanation of Celtic Symphony in particular just shows that they either have no backbone and lack the courage to argue for what they believe in

...and your ignorance as to the connotations of the song is hard to believe.

Ah yes, you've exceeded yourself again balladmaker. Go on, tell us the connotations of the song.

Hang on. Don't. I'll tell you the facts, not connotations.

FACT: The song was written to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the founding of Celtic FC.

FACT: Celtic FC is a Scottish Association Football Club.

FACT: Despite attempts by both the Old Firm to cleanse their respective clubs of links to and associations with paramilitaries in the north, the Wolfe Tones thought it would be great craic to stick in a lyric such as "ooh ah, up the Ra".

FACT: The Wolfe Tones are shite and beloved of ignorant, ill-educated bigots.

was never a huge fan of them, but some of their songs are quite good (then again I also like a lot of stange 'music' including the tune to 'the sash')
your last piece however I have to mention. I know of plenty of older sdlp more or less anti-republican, def anti-sf and ira despisers who love the wolfe tones. Its the music and the entertainment, the 'good show' they apparantly put on.

Its funny to see the 'mock outrage' from many unionist/loyalists over the 'IRA' lyrics in republican songs - without their ancestors (and they have still as yet to come to the fore themselves to speak of their disgust of the treatment handed out to catholic/Irish/nationalists especiall from the mid 50's to mid 90's !) when these lyrics arise of their own creation due to the apartheid state they created ! (or the wars instigated by the invation/plantation from cromwell thereafter). These songs bear witness to what happened in these retaliation years.

However the 'Celtic song' well you are right that they are a scots soccer club and the ooh ahh ra chant has no link at all.


While some of these songs can be good tunes and historically correct, there is a part of me that dislikes the wolfe tones as being vulturish opportunists.
But if people like and want entertainment and they provide it for them....

Apologies, I did a little bit of tarring everyone with the same brush. I too like some Wolfe Tones ballads, in particular The Streets of New York. I was referring to the generation of spides who know nothing other than a "Brits out" and "Up the Ra" mentality, who think the Wolfe Tones are fine and dandy because they're, you know, republicans....*cough*

[balladmaker]

I too like some Wolfe Tones ballads, in particular The Streets of New York

Stop the press!  Gallsman in Wolfe Tones arse licking shocker;)

Just for you ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYyYegCQPE

[Rav67]

Balladmaker - do you do promotion work for the Wolfe Tones I take it?