Saint John Paul II

[Denn Forever]

 

The Vatican has announced that Pope John Paul II is to be beatified in May.

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The Vatican has announced that Pope John Paul II is to be beatified in May.

By declaring him 'Blessed', the Catholic Church will promote him to just one step short of sainthood.

The decision, believed to be one of the most rapid of its kind, follows Pope Benedict XVI's approval of a decree attributing a miracle to him.

Church officials concluded that John Paul had interceded with God to cure Sister Marie Simon-Pierre Normand, a 49-year-old French nun diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, from which the pope himself had suffered.

She said her illness inexplicably disappeared two months after his death when she and her fellow nuns prayed to him.

But news of John Paul II's beatification has alarmed clerical abuse victims who called on the Church to 'move cautiously' in honouring the ex-pontiff, saying he did not do enough to combat abuse by priests during his pontificate.

Barbara Dorris of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) condemned the 'hasty drive to confer sainthood on the pontiff under whose reign most of the widely-documented clergy sex crimes and cover ups took place.

[pintsofguinness]

 

[ONeill]

I'd read that there was little proof that the nun in question had the illness in the first place and that whatever she had has returned. Also, why is there no little information on Fr Delgado who conned JP for years.

[tyssam5]

The 'Devil's Advocate' should have a field day at his hearings!

[Main Street]

According to the catholic church JP2 is a saint. Rational proof is not a requirement in this process. He satisfies the saintly criteria of the catholic church and that satisfies those who believe in the church's teaching.
All the claimed miracle confirms is that JP2 is in heaven. Being in heaven is the requirement for sainthood. How else could the nun's prayer be answered  unless JP2 was in heaven.
In that context, would it not be quite absurd to require independent medical verification of the incurable disease process and the cure?
Some catholics just ask too many questions, just believe.

[tyssam5]

According to the catholic church JP2 is a saint. Rational proof is not a requirement in this process. He satisfies the saintly criteria of the catholic church and that satisfies those who believe in the church's teaching.
All the claimed miracle confirms is that JP2 is in heaven. Being in heaven is the requirement for sainthood. How else could the nun's prayer be answered  unless JP2 was in heaven.
In that context, would it not be quite absurd to require independent medical verification of the incurable disease process and the cure?
Some catholics just ask too many questions, just believe.

Don't they till have hold a 'trial'? Or is that done.

[Shamrock Shore]

Will he not be St. John Paul as he will the first saint with this title?

[ONeill]

According to the catholic church JP2 is a saint. Rational proof is not a requirement in this process. He satisfies the saintly criteria of the catholic church and that satisfies those who believe in the church's teaching.
All the claimed miracle confirms is that JP2 is in heaven. Being in heaven is the requirement for sainthood. How else could the nun's prayer be answered  unless JP2 was in heaven.
In that context, would it not be quite absurd to require independent medical verification of the incurable disease process and the cure?
Some catholics just ask too many questions, just believe.

I see that the Vatican's own medical man is the only one to have diagnosed the nun! It's a bit like yer man who hasn't had a drop of water in 80 years but only one dodgy quack has been allowed to assess him.

[theskull1]

So you can be complicit in the cover up of child sex abuse by priests and still get to heaven...even become a saint?   

Theres hope for us all then

Him and brendan smith must be having a quare oul time up there. The catholic church hierarchy really are a law onto themselves

[muppet]

And in other news...............Brian Cowen has been beautified.

[orangeman]

And in other news...............Brian Cowen has been beautified.

excellent Muppet.   

[Denn Forever]

Harsh but true

[theskull1]

Botox definately