Joe Kernan, Dublin Senior Football Manager 2009

[J70]

Will never happen with his sons playing for Armagh.

Brian McIvor ruthlessly targeted to his own son when Donegal played Derry in June. He got cleaned out and taken off at half time when Rory Kavanagh won a succession of kick-outs. Must have been difficult for him, but he had a job to do.

[ziggysego]

 True, but I just don't think Joe has it in him to do it. I could be wrong though.

[sammymaguire]

Will never happen with his sons playing for Armagh.

Brian McIvor Donegal manager and his son Michael Derry player

[Our Nail Loney]

Will never happen with his sons playing for Armagh.

Brian McIvor Donegal manager and his son Michael Derry player

See J70's post above ^^^

[JMohan]

Is the bigger question not whether Dublin would take an outside man rather than and outsider take Dublin?
Lyons was as good as a Dub having lived there for so long, but him aside I'm not sure Dublin would be so open to it.

[orangeman]

The Dubs would take Big Joe in the morning as second choice - they would really want Mickey Harte.

[JMohan]

I actually had good respect for Pillar as a person, he was nearly always respectful and honourable, (unlike gombeens like Lyons IMO who were just media people), Pillar tried hard but failed and took it on the chin.

I think Dublin should chose wisely now - they need someone very shrewd to close the deal out.
Harte could be a good one.

Names I've heard so far are ...
- Gerry McEntee - doesn't have the time I'm told
- Mickey Whelan and Niall Moyna - as a double team - I don't know if this is serious, but Whelan is spritely enough to manage it I'd say
- Mick Galvin - Good bet
- Paul Curran - No Idea if this is serious
- Joe Kernan - can't see it happening
- Mickey Harte - (though not a chance after Sunday)
- Colm O'Rourke - with Gerry McEntee - this sounds like nonsense
- Micko Dywer - It'll never happen but I'd pay to see it and the old cute rogue would probably win Sam too!
- Brian Mullins - not a hope I'd say
- Talty & Billings - probably want it, but I can't see them getting it
- Paul Grimley - This one was mentioned along with others as part of a special team

I'd say there'll be a few more to be mentioned, but I just hope they get someone better than that lot above

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

I'd say there'll be a few more to be mentioned, but I just hope they get someone better than that lot above

With some of the names above, you're a hard man to please if you're looking for a better standard of contender!

[screenexile]

Who would want to touch the Dublin manager's job with a barge pole? I think it is a totally poisoned chalice and anyone who takes it would have to be a Dub through and through to even entertain the idea of putting themselves under the scrutiny and the pressure of the toughest job in GAA!

Dublin have a woeful underage structure and an equally bad Club Structure so I don't really see where anybody new is going to unearth these talents that are missing from the Dublin setup.

I played club football in Dublin and out of 3 men from my club who played for county I would say only one of them would have made the cut in another 'big' county. The position of a Dublin footballer is too prestigious nearly among the Dublin clubs and the Dublin public. FFS Conal Keaney is nearly treated like Cristiano Ronaldo with the sponsorship and incentives he gets! These lads seem to forget about what the GAA was built on... the Club... Dublin players who are average enough get treated like royalty when in reality there are 6,7,8,9 players better than them in their position in the country yet do not get half the recognition the Dubs do. They cannot help but get carried away!

No matter how hard Caffrey or any other manager tries it is hard to shake this mentality and it takes an Alex Ferguson, Wenger, Mickey Harter type character to basically chop these lads down and mould them to they way they are needed! Dublin need a strong character like Mickey Harte did with Tyrone to come in and revolutionise the underage structure to build a foundation and then carry this through to fruition at Senior level... is there anyone else like this that exists? If they do would they want the Dubs job? I don't think so and I think this is why Dublin are always doomed to fail on the big stage time after time!