Club Championships 2025

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, July 29, 2025, 11:06:11 AM

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Wildweasel74

Arguing over a point of view that shouldn't happened, as it was a blatant free to St Finbarrs and the ref decided to do the usual shit refs do and try give the team behind in a tight game, one last chance.

Rossfan

Cork have drawn the Groups for their 5 main Hurling and Football Championships 2026 already😲.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2025, 08:42:31 PMArguing over a point of view that shouldn't happened, as it was a blatant free to St Finbarrs and the ref decided to do the usual shit refs do and try give the team behind in a tight game, one last chance.

That's a moronic post ffs!

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Wildweasel74

Nah, it's the truth, see it in so many games, the hooter was brought in to try cut that crap out

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2025, 11:17:15 PMNah, it's the truth, see it in so many games, the hooter was brought in to try cut that crap out

So you're saying a ref is only interested in keeping the game close?

I'd prefer, as would most of the ref's I know, the game to be handy, that means a team winning by ten points, gets in the car afterwards with no gurning from the sidelines

Why anyone would intentionally bring a game to a close is bonkers.

Again I'll say, take up the whistle and let me know how many times you intentionally bring another team into the game..

It was a free, he'd been consistent with that type the whole game..

The players knew that, the lad lifted the loose ball for some reason only he knew, the we ref felt (rightly or wrongly) he was slowing play, applied the rules, two pointer game over over.

Knew himself that this would be difficult for him but he showed enough character to do the right thing. Another ref may have seen it differently but hey ho, a game isn't won or lost with the last kick, it's what happens from the first minute to the last.

The Barrs gave up a 7 point lead, that's on them
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

bennydorano

I've said something similar many times myself, it's not the Ref's job to keep a game interesting but i think subconsciously or overtly a lot of them do.

Armagh18

Quote from: bennydorano on Today at 11:31:19 AMI've said something similar many times myself, it's not the Ref's job to keep a game interesting but i think subconsciously or overtly a lot of them do.
Definitely, was very obvious pre hooter that the ref would always give plenty of time if a team was looking an equaliser.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: bennydorano on Today at 11:31:19 AMI've said something similar many times myself, it's not the Ref's job to keep a game interesting but i think subconsciously or overtly a lot of them do.

I really don't see it, I can't see the why in it.. Give me a 10 point winning game over close game every time, as I said, I don't know a ref that seeks to have a close game when the opportunity for a 50/50 call gives them a hard time

Teams chasing a game and building momentum will have a higher rate of fouls against them as the team hanging on will be desperate to win the game and make rash decisions so there's that to contend with in a game.

And anyone thinks the ref wants extra time is looney tunes, more hassle more time for abuse..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

NAG1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 12:03:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on Today at 11:31:19 AMI've said something similar many times myself, it's not the Ref's job to keep a game interesting but i think subconsciously or overtly a lot of them do.

I really don't see it, I can't see the why in it.. Give me a 10 point winning game over close game every time, as I said, I don't know a ref that seeks to have a close game when the opportunity for a 50/50 call gives them a hard time

Teams chasing a game and building momentum will have a higher rate of fouls against them as the team hanging on will be desperate to win the game and make rash decisions so there's that to contend with in a game.

And anyone thinks the ref wants extra time is looney tunes, more hassle more time for abuse..

Would agree with this is the main, the last free did look on the soft side though and even live I thought the 50m advance was harsh, then on the slow mo looked even more so.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 07:23:13 AMThe Barrs gave up a 7 point lead, that's on them

Not all on them, was your typical winter game of football with a strong wind.

Barrs 0-14 Dingle 1-6 in scoring 1st half with Stephen Sherlock making good use of wind.

0-6 to 0-12 the 2nd half scoring and 7 point leads not as they use to be with two pointers.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 07:23:13 AMThe Barrs gave up a 7 point lead, that's on them

Not all on them, was your typical winter game of football with a strong wind.

Barrs 0-14 Dingle 1-6 in scoring 1st half with Stephen Sherlock making good use of wind.

0-6 to 0-12 the 2nd half scoring and 7 point leads not as they use to be with two pointers.


As a manager, I'd rather have a 7 point lead, the wind was stronger, but wasn't blowing a gale from what I watched.

You adapt to play against the wind, that is the difference, felt personally Sherlock in the second half was too far up the pitch to have any impact in controlling the game more. They did lose that lead though no matter what way you look at it.

As said the game is won and lost over the whole game, and not the last seconds
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 06:02:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 07:23:13 AMThe Barrs gave up a 7 point lead, that's on them

Not all on them, was your typical winter game of football with a strong wind.

Barrs 0-14 Dingle 1-6 in scoring 1st half with Stephen Sherlock making good use of wind.

0-6 to 0-12 the 2nd half scoring and 7 point leads not as they use to be with two pointers.


As a manager, I'd rather have a 7 point lead, the wind was stronger, but wasn't blowing a gale from what I watched.

You adapt to play against the wind, that is the difference, felt personally Sherlock in the second half was too far up the pitch to have any impact in controlling the game more. They did lose that lead though no matter what way you look at it.

As said the game is won and lost over the whole game, and not the last seconds
Both teams had the same amount of scores (9) with the wind

Between the two 18 scores from 25 shots with the wind and 8 of the 18 scores was two pointers

The two teams had 12 scores against the wind from 23 shots and 1 of the 12 scores was a two pointer
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

blanketattack

Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 09, 2025, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on December 09, 2025, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2025, 11:19:33 PMThe Barrs player with the ball chucked the ball over the Dingle player's shoulder who came to get it, it caused at most a split second delay, if any. Regardless, doesn't the rule only refer to the player who did the foul and was in possession of the ball, who must hand it back to the nearest opposition player, it doesn't refer to other players who just happen to have the ball in hand.


The 50m punishment wasn't for handing the ball back too slowly, it was because after the ref blew a free for Dingle and the ball was loose, the Barrs player grabbed the ball.
This is one of the reasons the rule was brought in in the first place - it was very common, when the ref blew for a free and the ball was loose, the opposition player would grab the ball to stop the opponent taking a quick free.

You could argue the Barrs player thought the whistle was for a free for his team, but intent doesn't come into it, every player could argue "Oh! I thought it was our free".
Plus the ref was very clear. He immediately signalled the over-carrying gesture and pointed to the Barrs goalposts.
With the current rules, every player should have the discipline not to pick up a loose ball after the whistle has been blown until they've checked which team has received a free.
Under the current rules, the ref got the decision correct w.r.t. moving the ball 50m forward. He even measured the distance spot on.
However the free for overcarrying is dubious, not that I think he was fouled- I just don't think Maguire took too many steps.

You also can't barge into a player after a free is given under the current rules. Measured the distance spot on? Watch it back, highorlow has already pointed out that error.
Brought it infield about 20m and forward 45m so that's about 50m

Milltown Row2

Quote from: blanketattack on Today at 10:10:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 09, 2025, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on December 09, 2025, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2025, 11:19:33 PMThe Barrs player with the ball chucked the ball over the Dingle player's shoulder who came to get it, it caused at most a split second delay, if any. Regardless, doesn't the rule only refer to the player who did the foul and was in possession of the ball, who must hand it back to the nearest opposition player, it doesn't refer to other players who just happen to have the ball in hand.


The 50m punishment wasn't for handing the ball back too slowly, it was because after the ref blew a free for Dingle and the ball was loose, the Barrs player grabbed the ball.
This is one of the reasons the rule was brought in in the first place - it was very common, when the ref blew for a free and the ball was loose, the opposition player would grab the ball to stop the opponent taking a quick free.

You could argue the Barrs player thought the whistle was for a free for his team, but intent doesn't come into it, every player could argue "Oh! I thought it was our free".
Plus the ref was very clear. He immediately signalled the over-carrying gesture and pointed to the Barrs goalposts.
With the current rules, every player should have the discipline not to pick up a loose ball after the whistle has been blown until they've checked which team has received a free.
Under the current rules, the ref got the decision correct w.r.t. moving the ball 50m forward. He even measured the distance spot on.
However the free for overcarrying is dubious, not that I think he was fouled- I just don't think Maguire took too many steps.

You also can't barge into a player after a free is given under the current rules. Measured the distance spot on? Watch it back, highorlow has already pointed out that error.
Brought it infield about 20m and forward 45m so that's about 50m

More advantage position is the rule
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.