Prime - who's better than who

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In hiding

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on Today at 02:09:13 PM
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Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on Today at 01:22:48 PMPhillip Jordan?

I was going to add Phillip Jordan as I think he was as good as any but didn't want to bring my Tyrone bias too early.

For me though, watching Jack mc Caffrey in full flight was electrifying.

The goal vs Kerry in the 2019 final was pure class
100% Phillip Jordan should be in this conversation. Was as good as any. In the 2000s it was widely accepted the two best wing backs were O'Se and Jordan and the debate then was who was better. So if you are debating O'Se with Keegan and McCaffrey you also need to debate Jordan with Keegan and McCaffrey.

There are plenty of others you could add, Paul Curran and Martin O Connell especially but we'll start with the 3 mentioned to keep it handy

Goals_Will_Come

1. Tomas O'Se
2. Phillip Jordan
3. Lee Keegan
4. Jack McCaffrey

oakleaflad

1. Lee Keegan
2. Jack McCaffrey
3. Tomás O'Sé

All brilliant players of course and not easy choosing.

thewobbler

It's Lee Keegan and by a distance for me; the best defender in the history of the game.

James McCarthy the only one who'd match him in the halfback line.

That's not dismissing McCaffrey, Jordan or O'Se by the way. Fabulous, brilliant players.

Keegan and McCarthy (Cluxton and Clifford) is where I'd start the best team I've ever seen.

Armagh18

Brilliant idea for a thread In hiding, be great to do a few over the Christmas period

Newbridge Exile

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Quote from: In hiding on Today at 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on Today at 02:09:13 PM
Quote from: In hiding on Today at 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on Today at 01:22:48 PMPhillip Jordan?

I was going to add Phillip Jordan as I think he was as good as any but didn't want to bring my Tyrone bias too early.

For me though, watching Jack mc Caffrey in full flight was electrifying.

The goal vs Kerry in the 2019 final was pure class
100% Phillip Jordan should be in this conversation. Was as good as any. In the 2000s it was widely accepted the two best wing backs were O'Se and Jordan and the debate then was who was better. So if you are debating O'Se with Keegan and McCaffrey you also need to debate Jordan with Keegan and McCaffrey.

There are plenty of others you could add, Paul Curran and Martin O Connell especially but we'll start with the 3 mentioned to keep it handy
also
 Paul Currans name also  jumped to mind when I read this

Champion The Wonder Horse

Keegan for me too. Probably wouldn't have heard of the other two if they'd been competing for the same spot on a team as Keegan.

Jordan not worthy of a mention in this company, but James McCarthy definitely is.

In hiding

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on Today at 04:25:58 PMKeegan for me too. Probably wouldn't have heard of the other two if they'd been competing for the same spot on a team as Keegan.

Jordan not worthy of a mention in this company, but James McCarthy definitely is.

I don't think there has been a team that have played that a prime Mc Caffrey or O Se would not get on

Blowitupref

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Keegan just ahead of the other two for me. Never played Minor for Mayo but then developed into outstanding senior footballer an example to any teen who currently thinks they can't or won't make the cut at senior level.

Keegan at his prime marked the opposition best forwards out of the game.  His scoring ability for defender was highly impressive with 67 championship appearances scoring 7-48 (69)

Jack McCaffery pace to burn if one was to name the top five players on Dublins 6 in a row team he would be on it. Like Keegan another good scorer for a defender including 1-3 in 2019 All-Ireland final

Tomas O'Se another superb defender with a good eye for a score 5 All Ireland medals, 5 All stars and was the footballer of the year in 2009.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

gallsman

Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 05:35:52 PMKeegan just ahead of the other two for me. Never played Minor for Mayo but then developed into outstanding senior footballer an example to any teen who currently thinks they can't or won't make the cut at senior level.

Keegan at his prime marked the opposition best forwards out of the game.  His scoring ability for defender was highly impressive with 67 championship appearances scoring 7-48 (69)

Jack McCaffery pace to burn if one was to name the top five players on Dublins 6 in a row team he would be on it. Like Keegan another good scorer for a defender including 1-3 in 2019 All-Ireland final

Tomas O'Se another superb defender with a good eye for a score 5 All Ireland medals, 5 All stars and was the footballer of the year in 2009.

Not sure you can say that if he wasn't there for two of them.

Jordan not close to the level of the three named, which is no slight on him at all.

Blowitupref

Quote from: gallsman on Today at 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on Today at 05:35:52 PMKeegan just ahead of the other two for me. Never played Minor for Mayo but then developed into outstanding senior footballer an example to any teen who currently thinks they can't or won't make the cut at senior level.

Keegan at his prime marked the opposition best forwards out of the game.  His scoring ability for defender was highly impressive with 67 championship appearances scoring 7-48 (69)

Jack McCaffery pace to burn if one was to name the top five players on Dublins 6 in a row team he would be on it. Like Keegan another good scorer for a defender including 1-3 in 2019 All-Ireland final

Tomas O'Se another superb defender with a good eye for a score 5 All Ireland medals, 5 All stars and was the footballer of the year in 2009.

Not sure you can say that if he wasn't there for two of them.

Jordan not close to the level of the three named, which is no slight on him at all.

Two he missed was the truly forgettable 2020 covid winter championship and 2016 which along with the 1996 All-Ireland final is where Mayo probably have most regrets about.

Four of the top five players from Dublins 6 in a row teams IMO would be Stephen Cluxton,James McCarthy,Jack McCaffery,Brian Fenton a 5th I'd have to think it over a bit longer and pick between a handful of other players.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

ONeill

Keegan for me.

Jordan a close second. He never made a mistake, and his marker never got the better of him, apart from his last game.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.