Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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93-DY-SAM

Quote from: snoopdog on December 02, 2025, 08:14:07 AMI find it very hard to believe that 2 stands and 2 open terraces cant be built for 170M.
These are basic structures. 1 stand with hospitality the other just a normal stand like in every other country ground.
Surely that can be done and hold over 30k for the Ulster final

 

I've said it time and time again. The GAA need to cut their cloth to suit. Had they taken the Croke Park approach and built it one stand at a time with the funds available at that time, they'd have had Casement built by now. The blame for that lies fully with the Ulster Council, and it is a damning indictment on those involved to date. Failure to do so has opened the door to where we are today, with Unionists opposing everything to do with it, but the Ulster Council opened that Pandora's box by not having their act together 10/15 years ago.

tonto1888

Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

Im sure Antrim would be happy with that

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2025, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

The Irish government can more easily spend money on Clones than a regular ground for Antrim.
Is this not blindingly obvious? Whatever about getting the Euros, €50m to Casement and nothing in the pot for Louth/Meath/Dalymount/Finn park/soccer in general is electoral suicide. And yes, there is a partitionist aspect to this. Sticking one to the DUP isn't a huge vote winner when there are clear other uses for the capital grants programme.

seafoid

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 02, 2025, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2025, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

The Irish government can more easily spend money on Clones than a regular ground for Antrim.
Is this not blindingly obvious? Whatever about getting the Euros, €50m to Casement and nothing in the pot for Louth/Meath/Dalymount/Finn park/soccer in general is electoral suicide. And yes, there is a partitionist aspect to this. Sticking one to the DUP isn't a huge vote winner when there are clear other uses for the capital grants programme.
Louth and Meath don't need a big stadium.  The FAI can't afford to sponsor Dalymount or Finn Park. Most people don't pay attention and €50 million is peanuts

imtommygunn

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 02, 2025, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

Im sure Antrim would be happy with that

It's all we need. There has been no need for the saga that has gone on here.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 02, 2025, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2025, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

The Irish government can more easily spend money on Clones than a regular ground for Antrim.
Is this not blindingly obvious? Whatever about getting the Euros, €50m to Casement and nothing in the pot for Louth/Meath/Dalymount/Finn park/soccer in general is electoral suicide. And yes, there is a partitionist aspect to this. Sticking one to the DUP isn't a huge vote winner when there are clear other uses for the capital grants programme.

 ;D  ;D  ;D

Rossfan

Giving money to soccer is a total waste of taxpayers money!
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

tonto1888

Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2025, 10:32:31 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 02, 2025, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

Im sure Antrim would be happy with that

It's all we need. There has been no need for the saga that has gone on here.

i didnt mean to speak on Antrims behalf hah. As a recent blow in to North Belfast I would love to see this happening though

seafoid

The Aviva stadium cost €410 million. The Government ponied up €191 million (to help the FAI). Dublin has smaller stadiums for athletics (Morton Stadium) and League of Ireland.

Belfast has smaller stadiums for soccer and rugby.

£50 million isn't much in the context of the Irish budget.
Things have changed a lot since the heyday of Unionism.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: seafoid on December 02, 2025, 10:31:03 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 02, 2025, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2025, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

The Irish government can more easily spend money on Clones than a regular ground for Antrim.
Is this not blindingly obvious? Whatever about getting the Euros, €50m to Casement and nothing in the pot for Louth/Meath/Dalymount/Finn park/soccer in general is electoral suicide. And yes, there is a partitionist aspect to this. Sticking one to the DUP isn't a huge vote winner when there are clear other uses for the capital grants programme.
Louth and Meath don't need a big stadium.  The FAI can't afford to sponsor Dalymount or Finn Park. Most people don't pay attention and €50 million is peanuts
Not really the point. Casement is a shitshow. There are no votes in it. But people will point to the shit state of their teams facilities and say 'hold on' and there are votes in that.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on December 02, 2025, 12:29:19 PMGiving money to soccer is a total waste of taxpayers money!
As opposed to the splendid returns GAA grounds provide? The celtic tiger era county ground rebuilds were the definition of white elephant.

But I assume soccer will say give them some taxpayers money and let's find out.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 02, 2025, 06:44:40 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 02, 2025, 10:31:03 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 02, 2025, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2025, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

The Irish government can more easily spend money on Clones than a regular ground for Antrim.
Is this not blindingly obvious? Whatever about getting the Euros, €50m to Casement and nothing in the pot for Louth/Meath/Dalymount/Finn park/soccer in general is electoral suicide. And yes, there is a partitionist aspect to this. Sticking one to the DUP isn't a huge vote winner when there are clear other uses for the capital grants programme.
Louth and Meath don't need a big stadium.  The FAI can't afford to sponsor Dalymount or Finn Park. Most people don't pay attention and €50 million is peanuts
Not really the point. Casement is a shitshow. There are no votes in it. But people will point to the shit state of their teams facilities and say 'hold on' and there are votes in that.
Any Meath or Louth posters on here that want to jump in? Would it be a big issue to see support going to Casement that would make you consider changing your vote? Genuine question.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

imtommygunn

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 02, 2025, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2025, 10:32:31 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 02, 2025, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Munchie on December 01, 2025, 08:52:11 PMDoubt it, at that stage they won't need a provincial ground in the 6, it will all be one Ireland, Clones will keep getting face-lifts maybe some new bogs, it might get an Armagh type ground at most.

Im sure Antrim would be happy with that

It's all we need. There has been no need for the saga that has gone on here.

i didnt mean to speak on Antrims behalf hah. As a recent blow in to North Belfast I would love to see this happening though

 ;D  I would love to see it happen but we have to be realistic and unless a much more meagre offering is looked for this whole thing may never happen.

Rossfan

The longer they leave it the more meagre it will become as inflation reduces the worth of the available/promised finances.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Duine Inteacht Eile

What do you mean? Do you not just demand that your funders increase their contributions to account for inflation?