Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2025

[Look-Up!]

Hard to say without knowing too much on Glenullin. They've won 3 of the last 4 intermediates in Derry so can't be bad although hardly pulled up trees outside Derry. Ballyhaise best them so encouraging from a Cuchulainn's viewpoint. Ballinderry obviously very strong last year but struggled badly in the senior this year so I'd imagine the grades in both counties are comparable.

I don't know what stage Glenullin are at, whether a seasoned old team or coming young team but Cucus have a very nice blend and I would say there is a lot of improvement in them if they can keep together. Great result last day out too against a very strong team but left lots after them so lucky to get away with it in a way. I think it will be very close, not much more than a kick of a ball in it and should be a great game. Cavan side have the ability but I'd be very worried of the occasion and Derry men's experience.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Cuchullains slight favourites with the bookies. Which could be liable to flip the other way before the game.

I see Sallins of Kildare Favorites for the All Ireland.

Followed by An Gaelatcht of Kerry

Cuchullains and Strokestown next favourites.

[gallsman]

Sallins have been incredibly impressive to date. That Kilbride side they annihilated last weekend are only a couple of years up from junior but were very impressive Meath champions.

There's a lot of chat in Kildare about Sallins being real SFC contenders the next few years.

[Look-Up!]

Sallins have been incredibly impressive to date. That Kilbride side they annihilated last weekend are only a couple of years up from junior but were very impressive Meath champions.

There's a lot of chat in Kildare about Sallins being real SFC contenders the next few years.

Must be good if they're bookies favourites. That would be no mean An Gaeltacht team. Won the west Kerry championship this year, beating Dingle no less on the way.

[fullback2023]

Sallins have been incredibly impressive to date. That Kilbride side they annihilated last weekend are only a couple of years up from junior but were very impressive Meath champions.

There's a lot of chat in Kildare about Sallins being real SFC contenders the next few years.

Must be good if they're bookies favourites. That would be no mean An Gaeltacht team. Won the west Kerry championship this year, beating Dingle no less on the way.

Would be careful about reading too much into that result. Dingle won the county championship a couple of weeks before and played without any of their county players, or Mark O'Connor. Ghaeltacht's last game was the Intermediate final a couple of months earlier so they were full strength to get them ready for the AI. Hadn't won West Kerry since 2017 either which didn't do any harm, Dingle not as bothered as they'd already won the county.

[thebigfullforward]

Majority of counties I'd say have relegation playoffs in championship.

Imagine something being different from the way it's done in the great and mighty Tyrone. The arrogance!

However, most counties would never see their Division 1 league teams playing in the Junior football championship.

But can it happen?

Not in Tyrone it can't. Unless some major f**k up happens i guess lol

[SouthOfThe Bann]

I see Clogher are playing Tara GFC from London today.

They are back to back all Britain champions.

How come they play in the all Britain championship?

Should they not be in the London championship or how does that work?

[JoG2]

Did London relocate after Brexit? 🤔 Wouldn't blame them tbh

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Did London relocate after Brexit? 🤔 Wouldn't blame them tbh

Yeah but I thought the All Britain championship would be everywhere outside of London.

Best club teams in London be far too strong for Junior level.

Their champions play in Connacht Senior Club.

Just wondering how it works. They've won it twice in a row now so not as it if they are the London junior champions either.

[theticklemister]

To find out who represents London at Junior level in the All-Britain, the intermediate champions play the junior champions. There is not a massive difference in standard, as league positioning goes on league form. For example, St. Brendan's got beat by Tara in Intermediate final this year but also got relegated.  This year, Tara won the intermediate and Tara's seconds won the Junior; so Tara automatically represents London. Last year, Tara won the Junior.

From 2004 onwards, the London champions went to senior. Before then, all of the province played for the right to represent Britain.

Didn't see game today, but looks like Tara put it up to them. They have around 13 starters who are British born. They were lucky enough to beat Sean McDermotts of Birmingham and Warwickshire win final. Mcdermotts themselves have around 80% home grown.

Tara have Shay Rafferty in full forward. A London senior player.

Mitchels from Liverpool reached all Ireland junior football final twice in 2009 and 2015. Unlucky in both.

Standard has hugely dropped over here in recent years as more and more people go to elsewhere in the world for employment. When Mitchels got to the 2015 final, I would have put them as a top 6 intermediate side from Derry. Used to be four senior clubs in Lancashire now only two. St. Brendan's of Manchester, beat Mitchels in Lancashire final and Tara then beat Brendans by about 15 in All Britain semi-final.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

To find out who represents London at Junior level in the All-Britain, the intermediate champions play the junior champions. There is not a massive difference in standard, as league positioning goes on league form. For example, St. Brendan's got beat by Tara in Intermediate final this year but also got relegated.  This year, Tara won the intermediate and Tara's seconds won the Junior; so Tara automatically represents London. Last year, Tara won the Junior.

From 2004 onwards, the London champions went to senior. Before then, all of the province played for the right to represent Britain.

Didn't see game today, but looks like Tara put it up to them. They have around 13 starters who are British born. They were lucky enough to beat Sean McDermotts of Birmingham and Warwickshire win final. Mcdermotts themselves have around 80% home grown.

Tara have Shay Rafferty in full forward. A London senior player.

Mitchels from Liverpool reached junior football final twice in 2009 and 2015. Unlucky in both.

Standard has hugely dropped over here in recent years as more and more people go to elsewhere in the world for employment. When Mitchels got to the 2015 final, I would have put them as a top 6 intermediate side from Derry. Used to be four senior clubs in Lancashire now only two. St. Brendan's of Manchester, beat Mitchels in Lancashire final and Tara then beat Brendans by about 15 in All Britain semi-final.

Cheers that makes more sense now.

Could you clarify your second para there about 2004 onwards

[theticklemister]

To find out who represents London at Junior level in the All-Britain, the intermediate champions play the junior champions. There is not a massive difference in standard, as league positioning goes on league form. For example, St. Brendan's got beat by Tara in Intermediate final this year but also got relegated.  This year, Tara won the intermediate and Tara's seconds won the Junior; so Tara automatically represents London. Last year, Tara won the Junior.


If you manage to get to the all Britain inter county final , you automatically make the semi-final of all Ireland junior with New York and Kilkenny, which is played over a weekend in Ireland and the final takes place in Croke Park. Great carrot to be fair for players.
From 2004 onwards, the London champions went to senior. Before then, all of the province played for the right to represent Britain.

Didn't see game today, but looks like Tara put it up to them. They have around 13 starters who are British born. They were lucky enough to beat Sean McDermotts of Birmingham and Warwickshire win final. Mcdermotts themselves have around 80% home grown.

Tara have Shay Rafferty in full forward. A London senior player.

Mitchels from Liverpool reached junior football final twice in 2009 and 2015. Unlucky in both.

Standard has hugely dropped over here in recent years as more and more people go to elsewhere in the world for employment. When Mitchels got to the 2015 final, I would have put them as a top 6 intermediate side from Derry. Used to be four senior clubs in Lancashire now only two. St. Brendan's of Manchester, beat Mitchels in Lancashire final and Tara then beat Brendans by about 15 in All Britain semi-final.

Cheers that makes more sense now.

Could you clarify your second para there about 2004 onwards

Forgot to add, a few year ago it was decided that Ulster are put in partnership with Britain and they have a twinning final.
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Pre 2004, there was one All Britain championship and one winner who would go and represent Britain at senior club level in Ireland.

Definitely not fair.

Of all the previous years before 2004, I think maybe only 7 clubs outside of London won the all Britain. Showed the strength of London as whole.

At inter-county level London seniors compete of course in nfl and all-Ireland.

There is an inter county cship for the rest of us.  This is classed as Junior. All the counties take part and also the London junior team (have to be home grown) can take part. Wshire and London are currently the top sides with Lancashire and Scotland next and then a big drop off to Yorkshire, Gloucestershire and Hertfordshire.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

To find out who represents London at Junior level in the All-Britain, the intermediate champions play the junior champions. There is not a massive difference in standard, as league positioning goes on league form. For example, St. Brendan's got beat by Tara in Intermediate final this year but also got relegated.  This year, Tara won the intermediate and Tara's seconds won the Junior; so Tara automatically represents London. Last year, Tara won the Junior.


If you manage to get to the all Britain inter county final , you automatically make the semi-final of all Ireland junior with New York and Kilkenny, which is played over a weekend in Ireland and the final takes place in Croke Park. Great carrot to be fair for players.
From 2004 onwards, the London champions went to senior. Before then, all of the province played for the right to represent Britain.

Didn't see game today, but looks like Tara put it up to them. They have around 13 starters who are British born. They were lucky enough to beat Sean McDermotts of Birmingham and Warwickshire win final. Mcdermotts themselves have around 80% home grown.

Tara have Shay Rafferty in full forward. A London senior player.

Mitchels from Liverpool reached junior football final twice in 2009 and 2015. Unlucky in both.

Standard has hugely dropped over here in recent years as more and more people go to elsewhere in the world for employment. When Mitchels got to the 2015 final, I would have put them as a top 6 intermediate side from Derry. Used to be four senior clubs in Lancashire now only two. St. Brendan's of Manchester, beat Mitchels in Lancashire final and Tara then beat Brendans by about 15 in All Britain semi-final.

Cheers that makes more sense now.

Could you clarify your second para there about 2004 onwards

Forgot to add, a few year ago it was decided that Ulster are put in partnership with Britain and they have a twinning final.
——————
Pre 2004, there was one All Britain championship and one winner who would go and represent Britain at senior club level in Ireland.

Definitely not fair.

Of all the previous years before 2004, I think maybe only 7 clubs outside of London won the all Britain. Showed the strength of London as whole.

At inter-county level London seniors compete of course in nfl and all-Ireland.

There is an inter county cship for the rest of us.  This is classed as Junior. All the counties take part and also the London junior team (have to be home grown) can take part. Wshire and London are currently the top sides with Lancashire and Scotland next and then a big drop off to Yorkshire, Gloucestershire and Hertfordshire.

Sound it all makes sense now. Cheers for explaining.

[Armagh18]

How do the European champs fit in? Wasnt there a Barcelona team in Leinster this year?

[Jerome]

Seems very unfair that the Ulster champions have to play an extra game and in December too. Why is that not moved around, just keeping the Brits together?