Interesting One For The Tabloids - HSE Goof again !

Bud Wiser · January 10, 2008, 12:45:54 AM

A few weeks ago I filled out an application form to apply for the rules and regulations to qualify under the tenders process for supply of Business Services for the new Paediatric Hospital. The HSE returned the document today by Email with the rules as an attachment in word.

Rule 1. said "The names of interested parties will not be shared while the current competition is running"

This most important rule is there for very obvious reasons. Then what did they do?
Well they did the same as Croke park did one time with the Premium Seats and instead of Blind Carbon Copy the copied the names of all us interested parties to each other !! You couldn't make it up lads, I laughed when I saw my little company in there among the KPMGs and the Eircoms. I'd say one of the fat cats will be out on his arse over this.

stephenite · January 10, 2008, 01:08:45 AM

Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 10, 2008, 12:45:54 AM
A few weeks ago I filled out an application form to apply for the rules and regulations to qualify under the tenders process for supply of Business Services for the new Paediatric Hospital. The HSE returned the document today by Email with the rules as an attachment in word.

Rule 1. said "The names of interested parties will not be shared while the current competition is running"

This most important rule is there for very obvious reasons. Then what did they do?
Well they did the same as Croke park did one time with the Premium Seats and instead of Blind Carbon Copy the copied the names of all us interested parties to each other !! You couldn't make it up lads, I laughed when I saw my little company in there among the KPMGs and the Eircoms. I'd say one of the fat cats will be out on his arse over this.

More than likely some poor secretary who actually sent the email. You're not suggesting that someone at management level be actually held accountable for anything I hope??!!!

Bud Wiser · January 10, 2008, 01:37:58 AM

I would think that it would be more than just some poor secretary that would be dealing with procurement for the hospital that is being built on the grounds of the Mater. I would expect that this should be a very senior position. Either way, poor secretarys have no place in the Health Board because that is what has it the way it is, the poor secretary that gave me the appointment for cancer screening nine months after I requested it at which time it would have been too late is another example. Poor secretary's, who could be the cause of your death, goofers and inept departments have no place whatsoever in the health boards at any level and until that is accepted it will get no better.

pintsofguinness · January 10, 2008, 01:44:58 AM

A secretary can only give you an appointment if it's available bud.

stephenite · January 10, 2008, 01:54:48 AM

Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 10, 2008, 01:37:58 AM
I would think that it would be more than just some poor secretary that would be dealing with procurement for the hospital that is being built on the grounds of the Mater.

Seriously expect some Senior Manager to send out the actual email Bud? No chance, 100% sure of that

Puckoon · January 10, 2008, 02:27:44 AM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2008, 01:44:58 AM
A secretary can only give you an appointment if it's available bud.

Thats why they should get paid more - because they have to tell everyone who requests an appointment the same lie.

Example:

Mrs Puck blew out her meniscus last October, 10 days before she was due to move to las Vegas to do her surgery internship. Her knee was locked at 90 degrees and was released by an ER Dr at the emergency room. She couldn't walk and was non weight bearing. She called the surgeons office that had performed her previous two knee surgeries. His secretary told her the earliest available appointment was the end of November. She couldn't walk. To cut a long story short, she had me wheel her into the office after repeated attempts to contact the Dr, and waited for him to leave the office. He remembered her, realised how serious her condition was (due to a previous meniscal tear and an ACL reconstruction), realised she couldn't wait 6 weeks for a preliminary appointment (and probably 6 more for surgery) and scheduled her for surgery the following Tuesday. She is one of the smarter ballsier ones, who knows the working of the systems.

Drs almost ALWAYS have blocks of time free for such emergencies. Their secretaries are told/forced to set up smokescreens to keep it this way (and to stop timewasters and hypochondriacs getting attention).

If more people knew this and didn't accept what they are told by people in these positions just as readily, many more patients would get the treatment they need in a timely fashion.

Bit off tangent here, but thats the mood.

pintsofguinness · January 10, 2008, 06:34:20 PM

QuoteDrs almost ALWAYS have blocks of time free for such emergencies.

Yes but what happens when EVERYONE claims they're an emergency?

I don't know how it works in the US but here it's the consultant that determines, through details given to him by the GP, if the person needs to be put on an "urgent" or "non - urgent" waiting list. If a GP requests you be placed on an urgent list the consultant ususally goes along with it.
To blame a secretary, who slots you in for an appointment she's told to, is ridiculous.

Bud, if you're appointment was going to be too late there's a lot more people I'd be blaming before some secretary earning minimum wage.