GPA exceptionalism

Started by tiempo, February 06, 2025, 06:54:24 PM

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DuffleKing

Quote from: tiempo on July 25, 2025, 09:20:34 AMFun fact - hotels pubs restaurants chippys trains busses o'neills etc existed before the GPA

The GPA have paid for a report to justify funding and frame the GPA as indispensable

This is not an independent study, its advocacy economics/napkin maths 101 inflated by multipliers, assumptions, and the notion that every euro spent on a big match day somehow owes its existence solely to elite players

The GPA is sitting on the roof of a house built entirely by clubs and their leaders

The GPA has been strategically embedding itself, shifting from a "players' union" to an influential stakeholder inside GAA governance i.e. classic intuitional creep, its why they are so steadfast for integration, it creates holes and cracks for them to exploit and fill. Start as advocates, become embedded, shape policy, effectively co-govern: thats the vision

The GPAs latest pitch more money for elite amateurs is apparently about securing the future of Gaelic games for everyone - no harm Tom but thats an inverted pyramid of piffle

I won't be reading any of that as i'm not in the slightest but interested but if you don't think hotels, pubs, etc. don't benefit significantly from the IC season then you really shouldn't be in this conversation.

tiempo

The GPA was established in 1999, there is a downward trend in attendances in recent years, therefore hotels pubs etc must be less well off, I trust the GPA are owning this?

Should the players retain their grant funding, kit allowance, medical provision, mileage expenses and courses-training-advice via the GPA: yes

Should the GPA government grant be reviewed and increased to match inflation or more: yes

However, in my view the economic boost attributed to the IC game comes from the GAA as a whole, a product of the games themselves and the underpinning structures, and not any GPA intervention, they are a contrived sub-set being afforded too much influence

Rossfan

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Quote from: DuffleKing on July 25, 2025, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 25, 2025, 09:20:34 AMFun fact - hotels pubs restaurants chippys trains busses o'neills etc existed before the GPA

The GPA have paid for a report to justify funding and frame the GPA as indispensable

This is not an independent study, its advocacy economics/napkin maths 101 inflated by multipliers, assumptions, and the notion that every euro spent on a big match day somehow owes its existence solely to elite players

The GPA is sitting on the roof of a house built entirely by clubs and their leaders

The GPA has been strategically embedding itself, shifting from a "players' union" to an influential stakeholder inside GAA governance i.e. classic intuitional creep, its why they are so steadfast for integration, it creates holes and cracks for them to exploit and fill. Start as advocates, become embedded, shape policy, effectively co-govern: thats the vision

The GPAs latest pitch more money for elite amateurs is apparently about securing the future of Gaelic games for everyone - no harm Tom but thats an inverted pyramid of piffle

I won't be reading any of that as i'm not in the slightest but interested but if you don't think hotels, pubs, etc. don't benefit significantly from the IC season then you really shouldn't be in this conversation.

I'm drawn to argue here.

Do these businesses profit more because IC players choose the live the life of "indoctrinated slaves", or not?

I'm guessing their turnover (allowing for interest) is negligibly different to what they gained in 1995.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: DuffleKing on July 25, 2025, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 25, 2025, 09:20:34 AMFun fact - hotels pubs restaurants chippys trains busses o'neills etc existed before the GPA

The GPA have paid for a report to justify funding and frame the GPA as indispensable

This is not an independent study, its advocacy economics/napkin maths 101 inflated by multipliers, assumptions, and the notion that every euro spent on a big match day somehow owes its existence solely to elite players

The GPA is sitting on the roof of a house built entirely by clubs and their leaders

The GPA has been strategically embedding itself, shifting from a "players' union" to an influential stakeholder inside GAA governance i.e. classic intuitional creep, its why they are so steadfast for integration, it creates holes and cracks for them to exploit and fill. Start as advocates, become embedded, shape policy, effectively co-govern: thats the vision

The GPAs latest pitch more money for elite amateurs is apparently about securing the future of Gaelic games for everyone - no harm Tom but thats an inverted pyramid of piffle

I won't be reading any of that as i'm not in the slightest but interested but if you don't think hotels, pubs, etc. don't benefit significantly from the IC season then you really shouldn't be in this conversation.

Not to the tune of €600m though.

And your trip to Croke Park is just you spending money in Dublin versus at home. The GAA season simply doesn't generate €600m and the point is the GPA are deluded enough to think this bought report will open doors, let's talk magic beans

Armagh18

Ask the owners of the Clonliffe house or those pokey pubs in Clones if they benefit from intercounty football. Have spent a fecking fortune in them this last few years.

tiempo

Had the players and GPA built the stadiums, set the fixtures, printed the tickets, etc etc there might be a point

The GAA as a whole is worth billions to the Irish economy, underpinned at grassroots via club committees, without this you have nothing

https://www.shu.ac.uk/news/all-articles/latest-news/gaelic-games#:~:text=28%20November%202024-,New%20study%20finds%20economic%20and%20social%20value%20of%20Gaelic%20Games,society%20is%20almost%20%E2%82%AC3bn&text=Independent%20analysis%20of%20the%20economic,2.87%20billion%20to%20Irish%20society.

The GPA are not the IC game

London and New York contested the Junior final at Croke 2 weeks ago, these players aren't grant funded and it didn't stop them giving their all

DuffleKing


Glad I don't spend any time thinking about it - unlike some...

befair

I used to coach underage teams; our training ground was a council pitch, and our first job before every session was to lift the dog shite from around the goalposts. Perhaps the GPA would like to include it in their report