Cavan v Armagh - Kingspan Breffni Park - Sat, Apr 22, 2023 - 18:30

Started by illdecide, April 12, 2023, 11:01:39 AM

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Quote from: tonto1888 on April 23, 2023, 11:52:09 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 23, 2023, 11:42:00 AM
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Quote from: balladmaker on April 23, 2023, 09:56:41 AM
Armagh have beaten poor Antrim and Cavan teams so far, with no disrespect to either counties, neither of them would be considered statement wins for Armagh.

Second half last night when Cavan pushed up on our kick out, we couldn't win a ball.  A more ruthless team would have turned us over in those circumstances.  So a lot still to be worked on before semi next week.  No Armagh supporters should be losing the run of ourselves, yes we can be excited by possibility of a final appearance, but there's another difficult game to be navigated next week.
Geezer is probably aiming for the team to peak for the round Robin, if not the Ulster final.

See I think that's ridiculous and I don't believe it's true. Who are Armagh to turn their noses up at an Ulster title. They've won nothing since 2008, I've no doubt the plan is to win ulster and after that is bonus territory.

Ciaran McKeever has mentioned it twice. If he is pushing the narrative that ulsrer doesn't matter he needs to be got rid of from the coaching team ASAP

In hindsight I'd say those comments were just to take the pressure off the team. An Ulster title should the priority, if we win that then we can head into the AI series with the shackles off and anything is possible. I don't expect us to win an AI title but we have the forwards to at least do some serious damage and aim at a semi final place.

Wildweasel74

Reality is all on offer for all the Ulster teams is a, Ulster Championship, none of them are good enough to come anywhere near winning a all-Ireland.

Armagh18

Quote from: naka on April 23, 2023, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 23, 2023, 10:11:05 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on April 23, 2023, 09:56:41 AM
Armagh have beaten poor Antrim and Cavan teams so far, with no disrespect to either counties, neither of them would be considered statement wins for Armagh.

Second half last night when Cavan pushed up on our kick out, we couldn't win a ball.  A more ruthless team would have turned us over in those circumstances.  So a lot still to be worked on before semi next week.  No Armagh supporters should be losing the run of ourselves, yes we can be excited by possibility of a final appearance, but there's another difficult game to be navigated next week.
Yeah we needed to vary that kick out, lumping it just wasn't working.
I get why they limped it as being at the game the weather was atrocious , I walked across the pitch and indeed it was very sandy and soggy so why take the chance with a short kick out and lose it close to goal.
My complaint is the constant attempts at flicking it on, it worked once and once only.
Don't mind that flicking it on as an option the odd time as if it does work you're through and should have a scoring chance. No point doing it all the time though!

Blowitupref

The Cavan wides on Saturday. Poor shot selection on the majority of them.  Journalist Cahair O'Kane image.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Itchy

I would disagree with the way he is presenting data. You would think no team ever scores from outside the "scoring zone". Armagh had 15 men inside the scoring zone protecting a lead. If Cavan didnt shoot we'd have a journalist presenting data of how few shots were taken.

The issue is Cavan should have had a much higher return on those shots and I considered at least half of them scorable to a half decent forward. Now it would have been a travesty if Cavan had come back to win but they did have the chances to.

Armagh18

Quote from: Itchy on April 24, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
I would disagree with the way he is presenting data. You would think no team ever scores from outside the "scoring zone". Armagh had 15 men inside the scoring zone protecting a lead. If Cavan didnt shoot we'd have a journalist presenting data of how few shots were taken.

The issue is Cavan should have had a much higher return on those shots and I considered at least half of them scorable to a half decent forward. Now it would have been a travesty if Cavan had come back to win but they did have the chances to.
Cavan did have the slight wind in the second half if i remember rightly. Some of those are from daft range/angle but you'd expect them to score most or all of the central ones from not too far outside the D and even some of the further out ones too.

armaghniac

Armagh did pretty well in keeping Cavan out of the scoring zone. If only Armagh had made something from the kickouts after these wides then we would have had a good win.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Itchy on April 24, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
I would disagree with the way he is presenting data. You would think no team ever scores from outside the "scoring zone". Armagh had 15 men inside the scoring zone protecting a lead. If Cavan didnt shoot we'd have a journalist presenting data of how few shots were taken.

The issue is Cavan should have had a much higher return on those shots and I considered at least half of them scorable to a half decent forward. Now it would have been a travesty if Cavan had come back to win but they did have the chances to.

The area most of those shots was taken from would be low percentage scores,  Dublin under Gavin for example would never have taken them on.    What's Cavan's plan now? to simply go one better in Tailteann cup and be involved in the Sam Maguire group stage next year? are many of players planning taking time out with a bit of travelling? Thomas Galligan already a big loss.