Sligo - the Division Four thread, farewell, it's been nice knowing you....

[ludermor]

i hear tipp players nos 3, 6, 10, 9, 13 and 15 are getting  agents ready after getting a seal of approval

[Sligoper]

i hear tipp players nos 3, 6, 10, 9, 13 and 15 are getting  agents ready after getting a seal of approval

Just waiting for the transfer speculation now when the window opens 

[paddypastit]

Was watching on TV and due to "domestic distractions" (aged 3 and 4) couldn't really say I was glued.  A few observations on the whole.

Firstly Davey had to go - it was an ugly and violent act that could not be excused. In truth the correcxt application of the laws would have been a yellow for the guy that tackled him - it was a good bit more than a 'punch on the elbow' - it was a full blooded belt in the midriff but that still doesn't excuse the response for which the only fair punishment would be the old fashioned three months for striking

The tackle at the end by the Antrim sub was nearly as ugly but not quite.  Still clearly a straight red.

The whole refereeing performance, and there were more similar moments in Croke Pk today, showed uup the absolute stupidity of these experimental rules.  Basically a yellow has ust changed into a black book and a red has become a yellow.  You basically have to murder somebody to get a straight red.  The final minute yellow being a classic example of an old red being now a yellow and the 'tackle' on Johhmy Davey in the first half being a classic example of the yellow becoming a black book as was the black booking of Michael McNamara after the ref had consulted with am umpire and then run half the field to act

After the first ten minutes, when the pace flagI realged, it was poor fare.

Sligo did well when they went direct to the FF line and in fairness I suspect the tactric of hanimnhg the two wing HFs play deep was to play the ball in ahead of Marren and Kelly to get them on the ball ahead of a relatively pedestrian Antrim FB line.  Far too often though Sligo tried to walk the ball in there and they had veruy littloe penetration when playing the short game.

Am I the only one that is increasinly unconvincede about Kelly.  A corner forward that is noi scoring threat needs to have a lot more to his game than just being quick out to the ball and I don't see it.

I liked the look of Coen - most particularly the way he took the goal where he had to adjust the poition oif his feet very quickly but did so calmly and slotted.  That showed a presence of moind and awareness as well as good technical ability.

Costello is a neat ball player but, bluntly, he needs to lose about a stone and a half if he is to be any sort of a contributror come June.  That was a point in general aboiut the forwards - they looked out on their feet 10 minutes before the end.  It is in fairness a long long time until Sligo are out in championship so I'd nearly be more concerned if they were lepping out of their skins at this point.

The midfielders are raw in spots but they each look like natural midfielders rather than converted something elses which is encouraging, but we may see them get a few skinnings before they actually deliver properly.  All in all though I'd be for sticking with them

On the HB line though, we have a lot to do.  None to me were convincing as defenders.

Overall, a win was better than a loss and it might have taught us a few things.  The one big learning though is that without O'Hara, we are still significantly the lesser

[SLIGONIAN]

S Davey got sent off, was a good distance away but seemed to push away his opponent with arm, seemed harmless enough, but made contact with nose by the looks of the lad getting up, i just didnt think intent was there as ive seen davey do try to shrug players off with a leading arm before, might caught him with the elbow, well i'll put this way how the antrim lad who did something worse IMO on similiar lines stayed on I'll never know, disagraceful and alot more venom in his action i thought from the momemtum carried into the charge, glad gaughan got up.

Hope you get to see the Davey incident again. Provoked by a punch on the elbow but he deserved to go. Horrible challenge by Sean Burke. Deserved a red. Could be revisited. Wouldn't be bothered if it was.

Havent seen it up close, but general consesus talking to sligonians today is he had to go, was a good distance away from it so didnt see it properly as i said.

[SLIGONIAN]

Was watching on TV and due to "domestic distractions" (aged 3 and 4) couldn't really say I was glued.  A few observations on the whole.

Firstly Davey had to go - it was an ugly and violent act that could not be excused. In truth the correcxt application of the laws would have been a yellow for the guy that tackled him - it was a good bit more than a 'punch on the elbow' - it was a full blooded belt in the midriff but that still doesn't excuse the response for which the only fair punishment would be the old fashioned three months for striking

The tackle at the end by the Antrim sub was nearly as ugly but not quite.  Still clearly a straight red.

The whole refereeing performance, and there were more similar moments in Croke Pk today, showed uup the absolute stupidity of these experimental rules.  Basically a yellow has ust changed into a black book and a red has become a yellow.  You basically have to murder somebody to get a straight red.  The final minute yellow being a classic example of an old red being now a yellow and the 'tackle' on Johhmy Davey in the first half being a classic example of the yellow becoming a black book as was the black booking of Michael McNamara after the ref had consulted with am umpire and then run half the field to act

After the first ten minutes, when the pace flagI realged, it was poor fare.

Sligo did well when they went direct to the FF line and in fairness I suspect the tactric of hanimnhg the two wing HFs play deep was to play the ball in ahead of Marren and Kelly to get them on the ball ahead of a relatively pedestrian Antrim FB line.  Far too often though Sligo tried to walk the ball in there and they had veruy littloe penetration when playing the short game.

Am I the only one that is increasinly unconvincede about Kelly.  A corner forward that is noi scoring threat needs to have a lot more to his game than just being quick out to the ball and I don't see it.

I liked the look of Coen - most particularly the way he took the goal where he had to adjust the poition oif his feet very quickly but did so calmly and slotted.  That showed a presence of moind and awareness as well as good technical ability.

Costello is a neat ball player but, bluntly, he needs to lose about a stone and a half if he is to be any sort of a contributror come June.  That was a point in general aboiut the forwards - they looked out on their feet 10 minutes before the end.  It is in fairness a long long time until Sligo are out in championship so I'd nearly be more concerned if they were lepping out of their skins at this point.

The midfielders are raw in spots but they each look like natural midfielders rather than converted something elses which is encouraging, but we may see them get a few skinnings before they actually deliver properly.  All in all though I'd be for sticking with them

On the HB line though, we have a lot to do.  None to me were convincing as defenders.

Overall, a win was better than a loss and it might have taught us a few things.  The one big learning though is that without O'Hara, we are still significantly the lesser

Agree with all of that, what was the ref at though wasting half the day to give a black book on mcnamara, it was a joke, some lad on anfearrua gave the ref 8/10, what planet are people on on watching games .

O Hara we need him and for a few yrs yet for sure.

[Gold]

Was watching on TV and due to "domestic distractions" (aged 3 and 4) couldn't really say I was glued.  A few observations on the whole.

Firstly Davey had to go - it was an ugly and violent act that could not be excused. In truth the correcxt application of the laws would have been a yellow for the guy that tackled him - it was a good bit more than a 'punch on the elbow' - it was a full blooded belt in the midriff but that still doesn't excuse the response for which the only fair punishment would be the old fashioned three months for striking

The tackle at the end by the Antrim sub was nearly as ugly but not quite.  Still clearly a straight red.

The whole refereeing performance, and there were more similar moments in Croke Pk today, showed uup the absolute stupidity of these experimental rules.  Basically a yellow has ust changed into a black book and a red has become a yellow.  You basically have to murder somebody to get a straight red.  The final minute yellow being a classic example of an old red being now a yellow and the 'tackle' on Johhmy Davey in the first half being a classic example of the yellow becoming a black book as was the black booking of Michael McNamara after the ref had consulted with am umpire and then run half the field to act
After the first ten minutes, when the pace flagI realged, it was poor fare.

Sligo did well when they went direct to the FF line and in fairness I suspect the tactric of hanimnhg the two wing HFs play deep was to play the ball in ahead of Marren and Kelly to get them on the ball ahead of a relatively pedestrian Antrim FB line.  Far too often though Sligo tried to walk the ball in there and they had veruy littloe penetration when playing the short game.

Am I the only one that is increasinly unconvincede about Kelly.  A corner forward that is noi scoring threat needs to have a lot more to his game than just being quick out to the ball and I don't see it.

I liked the look of Coen - most particularly the way he took the goal where he had to adjust the poition oif his feet very quickly but did so calmly and slotted.  That showed a presence of moind and awareness as well as good technical ability.

Costello is a neat ball player but, bluntly, he needs to lose about a stone and a half if he is to be any sort of a contributror come June.  That was a point in general aboiut the forwards - they looked out on their feet 10 minutes before the end.  It is in fairness a long long time until Sligo are out in championship so I'd nearly be more concerned if they were lepping out of their skins at this point.

The midfielders are raw in spots but they each look like natural midfielders rather than converted something elses which is encouraging, but we may see them get a few skinnings before they actually deliver properly.  All in all though I'd be for sticking with them

On the HB line though, we have a lot to do.  None to me were convincing as defenders.

Overall, a win was better than a loss and it might have taught us a few things.  The one big learning though is that without O'Hara, we are still significantly the lesser

Agree with all of that, what was the ref at though wasting half the day to give a black book on mcnamara, it was a joke, some lad on anfearrua gave the ref 8/10, what planet are people on on watching games .

O Hara we need him and for a few yrs yet for sure.

this ruined the game--this is where antrim lost the game--we had just came back into it after stopping playing from the 10th minute, our tails were up and we had the momentum--when the ref went to the linesman then to the umpires (who didnt put their hands up to call him) i said that he better f**king at least give someone a f**king yellow here or else that is an absolute joke--gues what--3 minutes 50 seconds later--after noone had been injured or anything--the ref gave a black card---a f**king disgrace--pointless waste of time--this wrecked antrim's (albeit slight)momentum and sligo duly went on to wim the game(With 14 men).

[SLIGONIAN]

Was watching on TV and due to "domestic distractions" (aged 3 and 4) couldn't really say I was glued.  A few observations on the whole.

Firstly Davey had to go - it was an ugly and violent act that could not be excused. In truth the correcxt application of the laws would have been a yellow for the guy that tackled him - it was a good bit more than a 'punch on the elbow' - it was a full blooded belt in the midriff but that still doesn't excuse the response for which the only fair punishment would be the old fashioned three months for striking

The tackle at the end by the Antrim sub was nearly as ugly but not quite.  Still clearly a straight red.

The whole refereeing performance, and there were more similar moments in Croke Pk today, showed uup the absolute stupidity of these experimental rules.  Basically a yellow has ust changed into a black book and a red has become a yellow.  You basically have to murder somebody to get a straight red.  The final minute yellow being a classic example of an old red being now a yellow and the 'tackle' on Johhmy Davey in the first half being a classic example of the yellow becoming a black book as was the black booking of Michael McNamara after the ref had consulted with am umpire and then run half the field to act
After the first ten minutes, when the pace flagI realged, it was poor fare.

Sligo did well when they went direct to the FF line and in fairness I suspect the tactric of hanimnhg the two wing HFs play deep was to play the ball in ahead of Marren and Kelly to get them on the ball ahead of a relatively pedestrian Antrim FB line.  Far too often though Sligo tried to walk the ball in there and they had veruy littloe penetration when playing the short game.

Am I the only one that is increasinly unconvincede about Kelly.  A corner forward that is noi scoring threat needs to have a lot more to his game than just being quick out to the ball and I don't see it.

I liked the look of Coen - most particularly the way he took the goal where he had to adjust the poition oif his feet very quickly but did so calmly and slotted.  That showed a presence of moind and awareness as well as good technical ability.

Costello is a neat ball player but, bluntly, he needs to lose about a stone and a half if he is to be any sort of a contributror come June.  That was a point in general aboiut the forwards - they looked out on their feet 10 minutes before the end.  It is in fairness a long long time until Sligo are out in championship so I'd nearly be more concerned if they were lepping out of their skins at this point.

The midfielders are raw in spots but they each look like natural midfielders rather than converted something elses which is encouraging, but we may see them get a few skinnings before they actually deliver properly.  All in all though I'd be for sticking with them

On the HB line though, we have a lot to do.  None to me were convincing as defenders.

Overall, a win was better than a loss and it might have taught us a few things.  The one big learning though is that without O'Hara, we are still significantly the lesser

Agree with all of that, what was the ref at though wasting half the day to give a black book on mcnamara, it was a joke, some lad on anfearrua gave the ref 8/10, what planet are people on on watching games .

O Hara we need him and for a few yrs yet for sure.

this ruined the game--this is where antrim lost the game--we had just came back into it after stopping playing from the 10th minute, our tails were up and we had the momentum--when the ref went to the linesman then to the umpires (who didnt put their hands up to call him) i said that he better f**king at least give someone a f**king yellow here or else that is an absolute joke--gues what--3 minutes 50 seconds later--after noone had been injured or anything--the ref gave a black card---a f**king disgrace--pointless waste of time--this wrecked antrim's (albeit slight)momentum and sligo duly went on to wim the game(With 14 men).

And in fairness to Antrim aswell i think it was no9 got a yellow beside where we were and it wasnt even a foul, didnt see what no13 got a yellow for but having no freetaker at the end didnt help ye.

[Gold]

Was watching on TV and due to "domestic distractions" (aged 3 and 4) couldn't really say I was glued.  A few observations on the whole.

Firstly Davey had to go - it was an ugly and violent act that could not be excused. In truth the correcxt application of the laws would have been a yellow for the guy that tackled him - it was a good bit more than a 'punch on the elbow' - it was a full blooded belt in the midriff but that still doesn't excuse the response for which the only fair punishment would be the old fashioned three months for striking

The tackle at the end by the Antrim sub was nearly as ugly but not quite.  Still clearly a straight red.

The whole refereeing performance, and there were more similar moments in Croke Pk today, showed uup the absolute stupidity of these experimental rules.  Basically a yellow has ust changed into a black book and a red has become a yellow.  You basically have to murder somebody to get a straight red.  The final minute yellow being a classic example of an old red being now a yellow and the 'tackle' on Johhmy Davey in the first half being a classic example of the yellow becoming a black book as was the black booking of Michael McNamara after the ref had consulted with am umpire and then run half the field to act
After the first ten minutes, when the pace flagI realged, it was poor fare.

Sligo did well when they went direct to the FF line and in fairness I suspect the tactric of hanimnhg the two wing HFs play deep was to play the ball in ahead of Marren and Kelly to get them on the ball ahead of a relatively pedestrian Antrim FB line.  Far too often though Sligo tried to walk the ball in there and they had veruy littloe penetration when playing the short game.

Am I the only one that is increasinly unconvincede about Kelly.  A corner forward that is noi scoring threat needs to have a lot more to his game than just being quick out to the ball and I don't see it.

I liked the look of Coen - most particularly the way he took the goal where he had to adjust the poition oif his feet very quickly but did so calmly and slotted.  That showed a presence of moind and awareness as well as good technical ability.

Costello is a neat ball player but, bluntly, he needs to lose about a stone and a half if he is to be any sort of a contributror come June.  That was a point in general aboiut the forwards - they looked out on their feet 10 minutes before the end.  It is in fairness a long long time until Sligo are out in championship so I'd nearly be more concerned if they were lepping out of their skins at this point.

The midfielders are raw in spots but they each look like natural midfielders rather than converted something elses which is encouraging, but we may see them get a few skinnings before they actually deliver properly.  All in all though I'd be for sticking with them

On the HB line though, we have a lot to do.  None to me were convincing as defenders.

Overall, a win was better than a loss and it might have taught us a few things.  The one big learning though is that without O'Hara, we are still significantly the lesser

Agree with all of that, what was the ref at though wasting half the day to give a black book on mcnamara, it was a joke, some lad on anfearrua gave the ref 8/10, what planet are people on on watching games .

O Hara we need him and for a few yrs yet for sure.

this ruined the game--this is where antrim lost the game--we had just came back into it after stopping playing from the 10th minute, our tails were up and we had the momentum--when the ref went to the linesman then to the umpires (who didnt put their hands up to call him) i said that he better f**king at least give someone a f**king yellow here or else that is an absolute joke--gues what--3 minutes 50 seconds later--after noone had been injured or anything--the ref gave a black card---a f**king disgrace--pointless waste of time--this wrecked antrim's (albeit slight)momentum and sligo duly went on to wim the game(With 14 men).

And in fairness to Antrim aswell i think it was no9 got a yellow beside where we were and it wasnt even a foul, didnt see what no13 got a yellow for but having no freetaker at the end didnt help ye.

No 9': Gallaghers was for very little --No 13 Cunningham's was for a rugby tackle Brian O'Driscoll would have been proud of when there was no need as the ball was deep in Sligo's defence.

We stopped 10 minutes before half time and had no bite or penetration in the forward line--thats where we lost it--also you's were that bit more psysical and both our wing half backs noses were broken--the first one was cutely done by i think O'Hara and the 2nd by Davey was there for all to see. Unfortunetly these 2 were our best players by a distance and didnt help us.
Its poor however when of our 3 cores from play--1 came from midfielder McCann and the other 2 from wing back Loughrey. Worrying stuff

[paddypastit]

the first one was cutely done by i think O'Hara

the more things change...