Gender Quotas

Started by Captain Scarlet, December 12, 2016, 10:54:13 AM

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thewobbler

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Consider this.

The underlying mark of a good administrator is one who treats it as a vocation, and not a career. Good administrators are those who always find time.

In most walks of life, and particularly in sports administration, this means antisocial hours - as the majority of recipients of your efforts don't partake in sport during normal working hours.

It means late nights. It means working weekends. It means travelling 200 miles in a car by yourself at
1am on cold dark nights. For international sport it means travelling, and lots of it. Days, even weeks at a time. It means looking at an annual calendar of events and meetings that will not change, so you build your family life and free time around what's left when they're done.

Of course there's no reason why this type of lifestyle shouldn't appeal to women, and indeed to lots of women. But it's only going to be rewarding for you as a person if you truly love and believe in the sport that you're administering.

For many men, it's a case of giving something back to a sport that gave them so much pleasure, and they've a vested interest in ensuring that the next generations enjoy the same opportunities... and it's not sexist to point out that someone who didn't play or coach in the sport might not have that same calling.

Throw into the mix that sports administration - for family people - means missing out on proper family time (weekends and evenings) - and what you start to get is a picture that it's not sexism at play in sports administration, but more a case of Darwinism i.e. Those that can react more malleably to the environment will be the more likely to thrive. In this case, it's generally men. It's not always men and it's not for all men, but all things considered there will be a greater number of  suitable men than women... and as such men will dominate the higher positions.

If taking the time to consider that there might be underlying reasons for the current breakdown, which extends beyond evaluating the contents of a person's underpants, means that I can portrayed as sexist, well then f**k it I'm sexist.

armaghniac

This is a ridiculous proposal by a twat. Sports bodies should be funded on the basis of whether they are making good use of the money or not,  not some politician's idea of how they should organise themselves.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Is it not now Department Policy as opposed to a Proposal?
Won't the LGFA and Cumann Camógaíochta have to appoint men?
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We're going to bring home the SAM

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Quote from: thewobbler on December 13, 2016, 05:49:07 PM
Consider this.

The underlying mark of a good administrator is one who treats it as a vocation, and not a career. Good administrators are those who always find time.

In most walks of life, and particularly in sports administration, this means antisocial hours - as the majority of recipients of your efforts don't partake in sport during normal working hours.

It means late nights. It means working weekends. It means travelling 200 miles in a car by yourself at
1am on cold dark nights.
For international sport it means travelling, and lots of it. Days, even weeks at a time. It means looking at an annual calendar of events and meetings that will not change, so you build your family life and free time around what's left when they're done.

Of course there's no reason why this type of lifestyle shouldn't appeal to women, and indeed to lots of women. But it's only going to be rewarding for you as a person if you truly love and believe in the sport that you're administering.

For many men, it's a case of giving something back to a sport that gave them so much pleasure, and they've a vested interest in ensuring that the next generations enjoy the same opportunities... and it's not sexist to point out that someone who didn't play or coach in the sport might not have that same calling.

Throw into the mix that sports administration - for family people - means missing out on proper family time (weekends and evenings) - and what you start to get is a picture that it's not sexism at play in sports administration, but more a case of Darwinism i.e. Those that can react more malleably to the environment will be the more likely to thrive. In this case, it's generally men. It's not always men and it's not for all men, but all things considered there will be a greater number of  suitable men than women... and as such men will dominate the higher positions.

If taking the time to consider that there might be underlying reasons for the current breakdown, which extends beyond evaluating the contents of a person's underpants, means that I can portrayed as sexist, well then f**k it I'm sexist.

I think you have summed Danny Murphy up there!!
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Eamonnca1

Quote from: thewobbler on December 12, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
I truly wish the island of Australia hadn't yet been discovered so as we could now find it, and pack off all the liberal lefties to its giant expanse, where they could implement their vision of utopia, and the rest of us could watch - safely, from afar - while it implodes into a humourless, unproductive cesspit.

These people are in dire need of being clubbed over the head with a salty seal until it gets through to them that equality can only be beneficial for wider society when it is delivered as equality of opportunity and not equality of outcome.

If a female wants to be a leading sports administrator, then I welcome it. But at the very least, they should work their way through the same administrative and political structures as any man, before they can be considered for that position. That means starting on a bottom rung, not half way up, because you happen to be able to bear children.

Third paragraph was fine. The rest was a load of uncalled-for, abusive, half-baked ballix that just gets people's backs up and makes you less persuasive. Calling people names like a petulant schoolyard bully isn't going to win people over to your cause. Is Irish politics really in danger of being infected by this "I hate liberals" bullshit that's poisoned all discourse in the USA and led to the election of an incompetent orange-faced barbarian who doesn't know what he's doing?

Eamonnca1

The CA and LGFA should have become part of the GAA years ago. It would have sorted this issue out at a stroke.

International GAA units include the ladies sports under the same roof, only in Ireland is there this partition. You go to an international GAA meeting and it's a lot more professional and businesslike because there's more women in the room. It makes things run better, this is just the way of things.

armaghniac

With Brexit, a housing shortage,  hundreds on trollies in A&E,  traffic,  public pay and a variety of other things that need to be fixed, this is just political time wasting.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

thejuice

Are there women who are manly enough for Meath though?
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

Owenmoresider

Quote from: thewobbler on December 13, 2016, 05:32:35 PM
It's one of the innate curiosities of liberal lefties that when issuing their demands of equality for everyone, they're quite willing to be pious, intolerant, condescending and even racist, ageist and fattest towards those who don't totally share their views.

Recent examples include the Brexit and US elections. Plus the two comments above.
Very much so. Liberals are often more intolerant than those they would level that charge at. The mask slipped on that this year.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on December 12, 2016, 11:45:11 PM
Australia was discovered by humans  at least 40,000 years ago  ;)
And it's not an island

BennyCake

Oh jesus, soon they'll be complaining why there's no black managers.

What's John Barnes up to?

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

foxcommander

Absolutely ridiculous notion. Follow this pattern and you'll get the likes of Angela Kerins on the board of the GAA.

Only those who have demonstrated a commitment to the sport over years of service should be allowed steer it. Tell the government to go screw themselves.

Yet another attempt by the PC brigade to f**k up something that already works. It's not a case of allowing the brightest to shine anymore.
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