New Zealand earthquake and tsunami

Started by muppet, November 13, 2016, 05:12:17 PM

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omaghjoe

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 03:22:35 PM
True I suppose, but things like Facebook throw it in your face, you don't have to go looking. It's not necessarily confirmation bias.

True to an extend but you could always choose to roll you eyes at it

Anyway I wasnt really talking about confirmation bias as much as people's preferred emotional state.

I'd sort of compare it to bitching at work.... I was in management training once and bitching came up and someone said "Do you ever notice who you do it to". I used to bitch alot and sure enough I noticed that I always bitch to other people that bitch, never to someone who would likely say..."Catch yerself on wud ye" or "Sorry, dont really want to hear it" or "There is procedure thru HR if you have a grievance"


AZOffaly

You could, and I do. But that's sort of my point. Isn't it sad that we can't just expect our reporters to report the news, and let us make up our own mind on how 'terrible' it is otherwise. People are being spoonfed how to think, and how to feel, and that's what pisses me off.

Mind you I have a cynical mind anyway, so I believe nobody.

seafoid

FB is seriously compromised cos its algos cannot distinguish between real news and BreitBart which won the election. Zuckerberg says 99% of info is real but that is bullshit.

omaghjoe

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
You could, and I do. But that's sort of my point. Isn't it sad that we can't just expect our reporters to report the news, and let us make up our own mind on how 'terrible' it is otherwise. People are being spoonfed how to think, and how to feel, and that's what pisses me off.

Mind you I have a cynical mind anyway, so I believe nobody.


Likewise, unless it matches my own cynical viewpoint ;P

And now paradoxically we are back full circle, why would you expect reporters to give accurate accounts when for the most part they are operatives for a  profit making entity.

But perhaps this is more fundamental question of how do you know anything is correct if perception is removed? (sorry ET)

This reminds me of relativity, how do you know the speed of anything if nothing is stationary?

muppet

Quote from: omaghjoe on November 14, 2016, 04:33:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
You could, and I do. But that's sort of my point. Isn't it sad that we can't just expect our reporters to report the news, and let us make up our own mind on how 'terrible' it is otherwise. People are being spoonfed how to think, and how to feel, and that's what pisses me off.

Mind you I have a cynical mind anyway, so I believe nobody.


Likewise, unless it matches my own cynical viewpoint ;P

And now paradoxically we are back full circle, why would you expect reporters to give accurate accounts when for the most part they are operatives for a  profit making entity.

But perhaps this is more fundamental question of how do you know anything is correct if perception is removed? (sorry ET)

This reminds me of relativity, how do you know the speed of anything if nothing is stationary?

Why do we (some but not all countries) legal privileges such as the 'freedom of the press' upon them, if some of them merely exploit that for profit? Serious question btw.

MWWSI 2017

omaghjoe

Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on November 14, 2016, 04:33:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
You could, and I do. But that's sort of my point. Isn't it sad that we can't just expect our reporters to report the news, and let us make up our own mind on how 'terrible' it is otherwise. People are being spoonfed how to think, and how to feel, and that's what pisses me off.

Mind you I have a cynical mind anyway, so I believe nobody.


Likewise, unless it matches my own cynical viewpoint ;P

And now paradoxically we are back full circle, why would you expect reporters to give accurate accounts when for the most part they are operatives for a  profit making entity.

But perhaps this is more fundamental question of how do you know anything is correct if perception is removed? (sorry ET)

This reminds me of relativity, how do you know the speed of anything if nothing is stationary?

Why do we (some but not all countries) legal privileges such as the 'freedom of the press' upon them, if some of them merely exploit that for profit? Serious question btw.



Its a very good question Muppet and one that I have often wondered..

Why within the confines of a capitalist system is a completely derugulated press more likely to give accurate reporting than in a state controlled/regulated media? I truthfully cant see any..

The UK media went nuts after the government tried to impose some regulation on them after the phone hacking scandal, comparing it to China and Iran which was total bollocks. I really had to question their motives after that was it ego was it profit I dunno? But I am nearly definite that it was nothing to do with getting the truth to the people

Whats the map BTW?

muppet

Apologies, I couldn't get the legend put it up explaining the colours.

Basically no colour is 'not rated'
Very green is good situation'
Yellow 'noticeable problems'
Very pink 'Very serious situation'

With the other colours in between.

Here is the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
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