Normative data research

seaniebhoy84 · January 31, 2015, 04:22:38 PM

Hi folks, I'm currently doing a sports and coaching development degree and I have chosen gaelic football as my chosen sport. I am just putting it out there in the hope that someone may be able to point me in the write direction to gather information and especially normative data on the sport. I have looked at the gaa website and various journal articles but to no avail. I would be very grateful for any kind of advice.

Many thanks

Seán.

Zulu · January 31, 2015, 06:45:52 PM

What are you researching exactly?

ck · January 31, 2015, 11:37:20 PM

Quote from: seaniebhoy84 on January 31, 2015, 04:22:38 PM
Hi folks, I'm currently doing a sports and coaching development degree and I have chosen gaelic football as my chosen sport. I am just putting it out there in the hope that someone may be able to point me in the write direction to gather information and especially normative data on the sport. I have looked at the gaa website and various journal articles but to no avail. I would be very grateful for any kind of advice.

Many thanks

Seán.

Happy to help but I've read your post twice and still don't know what it is your asking

Eamonnca1 · February 01, 2015, 02:56:01 AM

Help gladly given but you'll need to be a bit more specific about what you're looking for.

brokencrossbar1 · February 01, 2015, 10:34:23 AM

I would imagine that you won't get a whole pile of data online Sean. Depending on what you want in terms of info I would just lift the phone and call Croke Park. Explain to them what you are looking for and they are generally very helpful but you need to be a bit more forthcoming with them than you are with us!!

seaniebhoy84 · February 01, 2015, 07:20:55 PM

I'm looking for data on fitness test results for gaelic footballers and compare them to soccer and rugby players. I also have to explain why they do specific training drills or exercises and describe why this type of training will benefit them in an actual game scenario.

Eamonnca1 · February 02, 2015, 11:13:56 PM

Interesting topic.

You might have to try your local county board and see if they'll be willing to release the data, you might have a better chance of success than contacting Croke Park. Better if you use the "know someone who knows someone" route instead of cold calling.

seafoid · February 03, 2015, 06:07:24 AM

Is this about gym data? Kildare county board have server farms running the McGeeney data.

brokencrossbar1 · February 03, 2015, 08:37:14 AM

I think your best bet would be to contact the like of Eugene Young or Niall Moyna in DCU. I doubt if Croke Park would have that type of info

seafoid · February 03, 2015, 08:41:44 AM

Is this just MBA style data worship, looking for objectivity where there isn't much ?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24556034

"DESIGN:

A cross sectional study of functional movement in Gaelic games at Elite and Sub-Elite level. Players were video recorded completing the Functional Movement Screen Tool and scored post-test. Comparisons were analysed using Mann-Whitney U tests.

SETTING:

Field testing in team gym facility and university biomechanics laboratory.

PARTICIPANTS:

A total of 62 players were tested. This consisted of 41 Hurling, and 21 Gaelic Football players. 30 of these participants were deemed Elite and 32 were deemed Sub-Elite. The mean age of the sample was 22.15 ± 3.02 years.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
Functional Movement Screen (FMS).

RESULTS:
The FMS mean score for the sample was 15.56 ± 1.46. The Elite group (15.8 ± 1.58) scored higher than the Sub-Elite group (15.34 ± 1.31) but there was no significant difference between groups.

CONCLUSIONS:
This study provides normative reference values for Gaelic Players. Elite Gaelic Players perform no better than a young, active population in the FMS indicating a potential problem with the FMS as a measure."

How do they measure the Kerry thing ?
Or the Galway hurlers ?

I'd love to know where the border between elite and sub elite is.
And where Brian Lohan would have been on the scale age 22

ck · February 03, 2015, 10:30:05 PM

Quote from: seaniebhoy84 on February 01, 2015, 07:20:55 PM
I'm looking for data on fitness test results for gaelic footballers and compare them to soccer and rugby players. I also have to explain why they do specific training drills or exercises and describe why this type of training will benefit them in an actual game scenario.

Seanie, Sligo county board released info last year for the minors. Stuff like training loads, fitness tests and that. They did a pilot for some sort of study done by croke park. The information was released to clubs via training courses. I'm sure Sligo board would be happy to share it