Landlord/Rental Query- Legal Advice

[Black Card]

Please don't pay and see what happens.
Could make a good story as we follow you through courts/ further disputes over the carpet.

Nothing will happen.

[giveherlong]

Please don't pay and see what happens.
Could make a good story as we follow you through courts/ further disputes over the carpet.

Nothing will happen.

Yea could provide endless entertainment, all I need is a GAA Board solicitor to represent me, any volunteers?

[Black Card]

Olly could be you man, sorry Brolly!!

[dferg]

I think the point being made is clear, as is the naïveté and silliness of it.

Really, why, (and that is not a rhetorical question please pen an answer)  what pisses all students off is this crap of a 12 month contract.  For landlords they know the students are going to be home but it means that for July and August the onus is on some poor sap from Augher or Strabane or where ever to get a bus down over the holidays to try and protect their deposit and ensure some dump isn't a bigger dump.  For simple maths if the rent was 500 a month for 12 months why doesn't the landlord charge 600 a month for 10 months, they get their money and the students don't feel aggrieved or ripped off, oh that's right they would have to look after their house over July and August and not be able to find as many excuses to withhold their deposit.  BTW it is not illegal to rent for less than 12 months!

There are lots of empty houses about.  If you say to a landlord you like the house but are only looking to rent for 10 months and have another 4 houses to see I bet you will get plenty of takers.

On the house itself I'd say £250 is your landlords opening gambit.  It's a second hand carpet in a rental house that is at least 2 years old.  Maybe £160 to buy a new 1 and fit?  Say you'll split the difference and agree to pay 1/2.  She gets a new carpet, you lose the threat of a solicitors letter...

[giveherlong]

Thanks

[thebigfella]

First of all, you can normally get a professional to repair damage to the carpet. She can't just decide to replace the carpet and charge you the cost without proof it's the only option.

Secondly, unless she put new carpet down before you took up the tenancy then the carpet will have depreciated due to existing wear and tear. Again she can't charge you the full replacement cost.

I'd just answer the phone and come to an arrangement to be honest, less headaches but I wouldn't pay the full amount to replace the carpet. She's just acting the Cnut expecting that.

[haranguerer]

We shouldnt forget that she has tried to contact you numerous times, to resolve this amicably in her own words, you said yourself you didnt answer, so you've brought this on yourself.

Anyone whos saying f**k it is thinking back to student days when the houses were kips and many a stroke was pulled by landlord and tenant alike. This doesnt sound at all like the case here. If she was fair to you, you should be fair to her.

[Puckoon]

I think the point being made is clear, as is the naïveté and silliness of it.

Really, why, (and that is not a rhetorical question please pen an answer)  what pisses all students off is this crap of a 12 month contract.  For landlords they know the students are going to be home but it means that for July and August the onus is on some poor sap from Augher or Strabane or where ever to get a bus down over the holidays to try and protect their deposit and ensure some dump isn't a bigger dump.  For simple maths if the rent was 500 a month for 12 months why doesn't the landlord charge 600 a month for 10 months, they get their money and the students don't feel aggrieved or ripped off, oh that's right they would have to look after their house over July and August and not be able to find as many excuses to withhold their deposit.  BTW it is not illegal to rent for less than 12 months!

1. Not all students return home for summer months. The same as not all students go home on weekends. Many stay for work, and plenty stay for repeat exams
2. Not all student houses contain solely student tenants. The mix of students and one poor (or smart sod, however you look at it) who has decided to work instead of study is pretty common place.
3. A 12 month contract is standard. It's how it works. If a student is feeling aggrieved about that then wait til they hit the real world. You're suggesting it's not the money (I.e beefing up the rent is ok), but that it's the duration by itself that is stupid? If someone can get a 10 month, good luck to them. Thinking ill of a landlord that wants 12 months of income based on who they choose to let rent their place is silly. If you don't want it move on and keep looking. If your boss wanted to pay you 500 less a month he has the right to want that and you have the right to say take a hike I'll look elsewhere.
4. Go back to point 1,2. Not every student fits the mold you are suggesting and as such the 12 month contract covers all bases and eventualities. Particularly for students who stay in the same house over multiple years of school

[Black Card]

Point 1,2 are irrelevant to my point - the statement about a boss paying you 500 less is also irrelevant and frankly stupid, point 4 is also irrelevant if people are on long term leases.  The point that a 12 month contract is standard is the issue as most students do go home over the summer.

[Puckoon]

Obviously you've some growing up to do. Maybe your work placement week might help you out and you'll have a grasp on it by the time you fill in your ucas application. Make sure you check the 10 month application box on your tenancy lease, otherwise you'll be stuck with the 12 month option!

[thebigfella]

Point 1,2 are irrelevant to my point - the statement about a boss paying you 500 less is also irrelevant and frankly stupid, point 4 is also irrelevant if people are on long term leases.  The point that a 12 month contract is standard is the issue as most students do go home over the summer.

Only in the north do students expect 10 month leases. Everyone else have to live in the real world. Sure maybe you should only pay rent for the nights you actually stay in the house?

[muppet]

Point 1,2 are irrelevant to my point - the statement about a boss paying you 500 less is also irrelevant and frankly stupid, point 4 is also irrelevant if people are on long term leases.  The point that a 12 month contract is standard is the issue as most students do go home over the summer.

Only in the north do students expect 10 month leases. Everyone else have to live in the real world. Sure maybe you should only pay rent for the nights you actually stay in the house?

I recall being in the Poly when we had a match scheduled for Christmas week, when term was over and the Halls of Residence were closed. I had nowhere to stay but luckily two lads involved with the club each put me up for a couple of nights. The first stay involved a trip to Dublin whereby we took the train, the guy's Dad picked us up, and brought us home to meet the Mammy. The Dad introduced me as a nephew of Colm Coyle of Meath and the mother wouldn't let me into the house. It look a lot of persuasion to recover the situation.

The 2nd stay was in a house somewhere in the mountains in Tyrone. We woke up with a helicopter hovering over the roof early in the morning. The next night we went to some nightclub in Cookstown or Carrickmore. We must have walked about 15 miles on the way home before getting a lift with the milkman. The match finally came, I played sh*ite marking a fella who I was certain was actually drunk, and I was subsequently dropped.

[thebigfella]

Point 1,2 are irrelevant to my point - the statement about a boss paying you 500 less is also irrelevant and frankly stupid, point 4 is also irrelevant if people are on long term leases.  The point that a 12 month contract is standard is the issue as most students do go home over the summer.

Only in the north do students expect 10 month leases. Everyone else have to live in the real world. Sure maybe you should only pay rent for the nights you actually stay in the house?

I recall being in the Poly when we had a match scheduled for Christmas week, when term was over and the Halls of Residence were closed. I had nowhere to stay but luckily two lads involved with the club each put me up for a couple of nights. The first stay involved a trip to Dublin whereby we took the train, the guy's Dad picked us up, and brought us home to meet the Mammy. The Dad introduced me as a nephew of Com Coyle of Meath and the mother wouldn't let me into the house. It look a lot of persuasion to recover the situation.

The 2nd stay was in a house somewhere in the mountains in Tyrone. We woke up with a helicopter hovering over the roof early in the morning. The next night we went to some nightclub in Cookstown or Carrickmore. We must have walked about 15 miles on the way home before getting a lift with the milkman. The match finally came, I played sh*ite marking a fella who I was certain was actually drunk, and I was subsequently dropped.

Fair enough stay in the halls of residence then if that's what they offer.

[muppet]

Point 1,2 are irrelevant to my point - the statement about a boss paying you 500 less is also irrelevant and frankly stupid, point 4 is also irrelevant if people are on long term leases.  The point that a 12 month contract is standard is the issue as most students do go home over the summer.

Only in the north do students expect 10 month leases. Everyone else have to live in the real world. Sure maybe you should only pay rent for the nights you actually stay in the house?

I recall being in the Poly when we had a match scheduled for Christmas week, when term was over and the Halls of Residence were closed. I had nowhere to stay but luckily two lads involved with the club each put me up for a couple of nights. The first stay involved a trip to Dublin whereby we took the train, the guy's Dad picked us up, and brought us home to meet the Mammy. The Dad introduced me as a nephew of Com Coyle of Meath and the mother wouldn't let me into the house. It look a lot of persuasion to recover the situation.

The 2nd stay was in a house somewhere in the mountains in Tyrone. We woke up with a helicopter hovering over the roof early in the morning. The next night we went to some nightclub in Cookstown or Carrickmore. We must have walked about 15 miles on the way home before getting a lift with the milkman. The match finally came, I played sh*ite marking a fella who I was certain was actually drunk, and I was subsequently dropped.

Fair enough stay in the halls of residence then if that's what they offer.

The moral of the story was probably to NOT stay in the halls if you plan on playing a bit of Gaa.

[Maguire01]

I think the point being made is clear, as is the naïveté and silliness of it.

Really, why, (and that is not a rhetorical question please pen an answer)  what pisses all students off is this crap of a 12 month contract.  For landlords they know the students are going to be home but it means that for July and August the onus is on some poor sap from Augher or Strabane or where ever to get a bus down over the holidays to try and protect their deposit and ensure some dump isn't a bigger dump.  For simple maths if the rent was 500 a month for 12 months why doesn't the landlord charge 600 a month for 10 months, they get their money and the students don't feel aggrieved or ripped off, oh that's right they would have to look after their house over July and August and not be able to find as many excuses to withhold their deposit.  BTW it is not illegal to rent for less than 12 months!

I have no doubt that if, at the end of month 10, you went to the landlord with 2 months' rent and the keys, they'd be only too happy to relieve you of the tenancy. Have you tried this?