Limerick GAA rocked by personal injury claims

Started by brokencrossbar1, December 21, 2013, 09:52:43 AM

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Jinxy

Disgraceful stuff really.
Looks like I can add the GAA hierarchy to my long list of people not to trust in modern Ireland.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

johnneycool

What a snidey way to operate?

Initially I thought it was the Limerick secretary who brought up the three claims horse shít and it was, but only on information gleaned from Croke parks safety committee.

So, can we believe anything else that comes out of the corridors of power in Croke Park?

OakleafCounty

They'll get away with it though. They answer to nobody unfortunately.

orangeman

Quote from: OakleafCounty on January 20, 2014, 10:25:04 AM
They'll get away with it though. They answer to nobody unfortunately.

That shouldn't be the way.

Every club has delegates to the county board.

Every county has delegates to the provincial councils.

The reason why there appears to be little accountability is because we allow that situation to persist.

When was the last time your club raised an issue at county board - provincial level ?

deiseach

Here's the quote from Liam O'Neill referencing the 'claims':

Quote"It's a pity it took three claims to get people behind what it is. A number of commentators have been commenting on the issue and saying it is traditional to go on the field and so on. It is actually dangerous and it is not justifiably in modern society that people put themselves at risk by going onto a field."

I don't get this at all. I'm strongly in favour of pitch invasions, but I had to admit after the fencing off of Hill 16 that they managed to pull it off without a hitch and the sky didn't fall in because supporters were denied access to the pitch. But he while says it's about safety he has to make up claims to buttress this argument.

AZOffaly

I think it's fairly obvious it's about safety in the sense that it is about indemnity and claims relating to injuries sustained as opposed to altruistic motives towards their 'patrons'.

I think the best reason for eliminating them is the peace and space it gives players on both sides after the final whistle.

I'm not sure if this is made up, or exaggerated for effect. I tend to think the latter based on the wording in the statement from the insurance officer

"Formally, no proceedings have been instigated". That sounds like there may have been informal contact made, but then again maybe I'm giving too much benefit there. Either way it reflects very badly on Croke Park. They blackguarded Limerick fans, and misled the rest of us. But sure I suppose we're only patrons.

orangeman

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Quote from: AZOffaly on January 20, 2014, 10:51:39 AM
I think it's fairly obvious it's about safety in the sense that it is about indemnity and claims relating to injuries sustained as opposed to altruistic motives towards their 'patrons'.

I think the best reason for eliminating them is the peace and space it gives players on both sides after the final whistle.

I'm not sure if this is made up, or exaggerated for effect. I tend to think the latter based on the wording in the statement from the insurance officer

"Formally, no proceedings have been instigated". That sounds like there may have been informal contact made, but then again maybe I'm giving too much benefit there. Either way it reflects very badly on Croke Park. They blackguarded Limerick fans, and misled the rest of us. But sure I suppose we're only patrons.

You're being kind AZ.

There either were claims lodged or not.

The statement now makes it clear there were no claims lodged.

brokencrossbar1

Lads there may have been contact, even on a formal basis.  The way it works in any litigation case is that there is a preliminary letter of claim outlining the basis of the actions, injuries suffered and  allegation of negligence.This is not formally instigating proceedings as no papers are required to be lodged with the Court to do this.  I am not saying that this did or did not happen but it may have.  If it didn't go beyond this then both comments by O'Neill and the insurance officer are both factually correct. I think though that O'Neill is full of hot air and I actually see him as a poor,  reactionary President who seems to have a chip on his shoulder and I have always felt that from the first time I saw him speaking in the Armagh City Hotel ,  just after it had been announced he would be president.

deiseach

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 20, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Lads there may have been contact, even on a formal basis.  The way it works in any litigation case is that there is a preliminary letter of claim outlining the basis of the actions, injuries suffered and  allegation of negligence.This is not formally instigating proceedings as no papers are required to be lodged with the Court to do this.  I am not saying that this did or did not happen but it may have.  If it didn't go beyond this then both comments by O'Neill and the insurance officer are both factually correct. I think though that O'Neill is full of hot air and I actually see him as a poor,  reactionary President who seems to have a chip on his shoulder and I have always felt that from the first time I saw him speaking in the Armagh City Hotel ,  just after it had been announced he would be president.

Can anyone quote a single instance where the GAA had to pay out money over injuries suffered in the course of a pitch invasion?

Premier Emperor

I should have put in a claim for the time I tore the crotch of my jeans climbing through barbed wire in the old Cusack to get onto the pitch.

orangeman

Quote from: Premier Emperor on January 20, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
I should have put in a claim for the time I tore the crotch of my jeans climbing through barbed wire in the old Cusack to get onto the pitch.

Did you do any other damage or was it limited to the crotch ?

The Statute of Limitations might apply all the same.

Sidney

Quote from: deiseach on January 20, 2014, 11:54:32 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 20, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Lads there may have been contact, even on a formal basis.  The way it works in any litigation case is that there is a preliminary letter of claim outlining the basis of the actions, injuries suffered and  allegation of negligence.This is not formally instigating proceedings as no papers are required to be lodged with the Court to do this.  I am not saying that this did or did not happen but it may have.  If it didn't go beyond this then both comments by O'Neill and the insurance officer are both factually correct. I think though that O'Neill is full of hot air and I actually see him as a poor,  reactionary President who seems to have a chip on his shoulder and I have always felt that from the first time I saw him speaking in the Armagh City Hotel ,  just after it had been announced he would be president.

Can anyone quote a single instance where the GAA had to pay out money over injuries suffered in the course of a pitch invasion?
Surely somebody here knows the supposed Tyrone fan who had a heart attack on the pitch after the 2008 All-Ireland final?

Or can I presume the GAA made that one up too?





southdown

Court proceedings in any claim are usually issued straight away (in the UK anyway).  Id imagine any claim is being dealt with through the GAA's insurer.  So if proceedings haven't been issued, it doesn't mean that the claim doesn't exist.

deiseach

Quote from: southdown on January 20, 2014, 02:30:13 PM
Court proceedings in any claim are usually issued straight away (in the UK anyway).  Id imagine any claim is being dealt with through the GAA's insurer.  So if proceedings haven't been issued, it doesn't mean that the claim doesn't exist.

On the basis of report in the Examiner, can we at least assume these claims have thus far cost the GAA zero cents/pence?