Liam O Neill and County Managers. Eugene McGee

[Rossfan]

Rossfan. Your English is splendid.

Ahhh sure it doeshn't be too bad betimes 

[Syferus]

We've never had any problems at all, ever, with outside managers... isn't that right, Rossfan? 

The mistrust of people because they were born a few miles over a certain line in the GAA is never fails to raise a chuckle, though.

Sometimes I think county boards couldn't get any worse and then I heart some of the shite supporters spout and I realise we haven't hit the bottom of the barrel yet.

[Hardy]

we have gotten President's

2 mortal sins - -americanisation and the comma. 

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Comma, indeed!

[heffo]

Is he not more having a go at some counties (and possibly one in particular) where it's believed the County Mgt are toothless and the Senior Mgr runs the show?

[Donnellys Hollow]

Is he not more having a go at some counties (and possibly one in particular) where it's believed the County Mgt are toothless and the Senior Mgr runs the show?

Probably.

[Dinny Breen]

and why not show some balls and say it.

[FermGael]

Is he not more having a go at some counties (and possibly one in particular) where it's believed the County Mgt are toothless and the Senior Mgr runs the show?

One. I think you will find that is the case in most counties

[Rossfan]

we have gotten President's

2 mortal sins - -americanisation and the comma. 

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Comma, indeed!

Touché 

[JHume]

This is a quote from our President re the reduction in team management inside the wire:

The original plan was to reduce it to seven, but O'Neill wanted just three (a maor foirne and two water carriers) with everyone else back in the 'designated area.' "I wanted one (not including water carriers) but I didn't get my own way," he admitted.

I didn't get my own way!

He sounds like a spoilt 3 year old.

Agree entirely with the sentiments in this thread about crusading presidents.

Like them or not, 3 recent presidents have left a legacy: Peter Quinn, Sean McCague and Sean Kelly.

The rest are instantly forgettable - although not for want of trying on their own behalf.

Liam O'Neill is just the latest President without a cause.

[Catch and Kick]

Martin Fogarty is a hurling man through and t through; very down to earth, level headed, unassuming and not a headline chaser. Here's what he thinks:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/fogarty-decries-dictatorship-223018.html

[orangeman]

Martin Fogarty is a hurling man through and t through; very down to earth, level headed, unassuming and not a headline chaser. Here's what he thinks:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/fogarty-decries-dictatorship-223018.html

No beating about the bush there. And coming from a man and a county who keep a low profile, this is significant criticism.
But it will fall on deaf ears as usual.


Hard hitting no holds barred stuff.

How many people on the CCC or Central Council or indeed at Co. Board level have asked themselves the following questions or have sought the opinion of the people the rules affect, team management and players? Very few, if any I think.


1. How can two people look after about forty hurls, a supply of spare helmets, maybe a few pairs of boots and deliver water to players that are spread out over an area of 145M x 90M
2. How can a player get a drink in the heat of battle, in maybe an All-Ireland Final, if he has to leave his marker and go to a water station that could be 100M away from him? Everyone in Croke Park except the players can take a drink whenever they want it. The people that are providing the entertainment, filling the stands and working to exhaustion are denied a drink by others whose contribution to the days entertainment is to sit in soft seats and retire to the lounge for refreshments at half time. They can even bring their coffee out with them to the soft seats if they wish.
3. How can a selector discuss players and team issues if he is sitting up among the subs and beside spectators? Even if he is in the box in Croke Park discussion on a walkie-talkie is very very difficult for him and for the Maor Foirne or Bainisteoir who are trying to hear him on the noisy sideline. As far as I can see the new regulation has basically made the position of selector untenable.
4. What is wrong with having a Doctor and Physio on the line where they can react immediately to players needs. Why should the Referee have the added burden of having to call on a medic? He has enough to do and what about the consequences if he makes a late call or fails to make a call.
5. What is wrong with the County Secretary sitting on the line writing out the slips for substitutions instead of the manager having to shout him down from the stand every time he is considering a change?

Probably 300 security people parade on to the sideline for the last ten minutes of every game in Croke Park blocking several views. Camera people, stewards and an array of others have access to the pitch and nobody sees any problem. Yet there is a problem with the handful of people who are looking after the most important people of all- the players. Management don't tell the officials who can or cannot sit in the Ard Comhairle, they don't tell them when they can go get a drink of water, how long speeches should be, they don't tell them how to organise fixtures or venues, organise security or stewarding because they (management) don't know what is involved in these jobs.  Why then are management dictated to by people who have never managed? Let everyone in this organization do their own job and not interfere with others who are doing theirs and doing it quite well.


I am very disappointed with the Uachtarán who I though, being a hurling man from a small club in Laois, would understand the needs of hurling as opposed to other sports. Instead he appears to be sticking in the boot at every opportunity and finding problems where there are none. His recent outburst against managers is outrageous. His comparisons to Rugby and other games make no sense. Hurling is a unique game. Rugby is much better viewed on TV so it suits managers to have laptops and there is no switching or moving of players. You are not likely to see the hooker  told to mark up his opposite out half in a game-winning move. Ironically in this game of Rugby that the Uachtarán so badly wants to mimic there is no problem with people running in to players with water during a break in play. Is it a case of picking and choosing what suits? All this messing with rules is achieving, is that it is throwing people that are supposed to be working together, into needless conflict- Team Management, Co. Board Officers, Central Council representatives and the CCC.  I say leave things alone, stop trying to fix things that are not broken."

- Martin Fogarty

[rosnarun]

Fir enough appointing a visonary if it was a sought after position . dont forget LON is only there cause no one else wanted the Job .
He did not even have to go through the rigours of Soviet style democracy Most other  presidents have to

[Premier Emperor]

Fogarty would do well to remember that these rules are being put in place to limit the scenes like we had at the All Ireland final.
Brian Cody and his motley crew of selectors getting into a scrap with Anthony Cunningham.

[Rossfan]

Martin Fogarty is a hurling man through and t through; very down to earth, level headed, unassuming and not a headline chaser. Here's what he thinks:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/fogarty-decries-dictatorship-223018.html

I am very disappointed with the Uachtarán who I though, being a hurling man from a small club in Laois, would understand the needs of hurling as opposed to other sports.

This oul crack of trying to get "hurling people" to have rules and to obey them has to be stopped.
Next thing they'll be telling refs to go by the playing rules in the Treoir Oifigiúil for God sake.

[neilthemac]

Martin Fogarty is a hurling man through and t through; very down to earth, level headed, unassuming and not a headline chaser. Here's what he thinks:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/fogarty-decries-dictatorship-223018.html

I am very disappointed with the Uachtarán who I though, being a hurling man from a small club in Laois, would understand the needs of hurling as opposed to other sports.

This oul crack of trying to get "hurling people" to have rules and to obey them has to be stopped.
Next thing they'll be telling refs to go by the playing rules in the Treoir Oifigiúil for God sake.

have you ever played hurling?
even club hurling teams need a lot of helpers with hurleys.
I can see where he is coming from.

if the officials in every ground just implemented the previous rules - subs in the stand and not allowed out of the stand except to warm up in threes, then it is doubtful if there would have been any major sideline incidents