Speed of light broken?

Started by balladmaker, September 23, 2011, 07:52:38 PM

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balladmaker

Quotethe bartender says "sorry we don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here"
a neutrino walks into a bar

The nail on the head

muppet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15471118

Faster-than-light neutrino experiment to be run again
By Paul Rincon
Science editor, BBC News website

Scientists who announced that sub-atomic particles might be able to travel faster than light are to rerun their experiment in a different way.

This will address criticisms and allow the physicists to shore up their analysis as much as possible before submitting it for publication.

Dr Sergio Bertolucci said it was vital not to "fool around" given the staggering implications of the result.

So they are doing all they can to rule out more pedestrian explanations.

Physicists working on the Opera experiment announced the perplexing findings last month.

Neutrinos sent through the ground from Cern (the home of the Large Hadron Collider) in Geneva toward the Gran Sasso laboratory 732km away in Italy seemed to show up a tiny fraction of a second earlier than light would have.

The speed of light is widely regarded as the Universe's ultimate velocity limit. Outlined first by James Clerk Maxwell and then by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity, much of modern physics relies on the idea that nothing can travel faster than light.

For many, the most comforting explanation is that some repeated "systematic error" has so far eluded the experimenters.

Since September, more than 80 scientific papers about the finding have been posted to the arXiv pre-print server. Most propose theoretical solutions for the observation; a few claim to find problems.

Dr Bertolucci, the director of research at Cern, told BBC News: "In the last few days we have started to send a different time structure of the beam to Gran Sasso.

"This will allow Opera to repeat the measurement, removing some of the possible systematics."

The neutrinos that emerge at Gran Sasso start off as a beam of proton particles at Cern. Through a series of complex interactions, neutrino particles are generated from this beam and stream through the Earth's crust to Italy.
MWWSI 2017

Jim_Murphy_74


J70

Quote from: muppet on October 28, 2011, 05:44:39 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15471118

Faster-than-light neutrino experiment to be run again
By Paul Rincon
Science editor, BBC News website

Scientists who announced that sub-atomic particles might be able to travel faster than light are to rerun their experiment in a different way.

This will address criticisms and allow the physicists to shore up their analysis as much as possible before submitting it for publication.

Dr Sergio Bertolucci said it was vital not to "fool around" given the staggering implications of the result.

So they are doing all they can to rule out more pedestrian explanations.

Physicists working on the Opera experiment announced the perplexing findings last month.

Neutrinos sent through the ground from Cern (the home of the Large Hadron Collider) in Geneva toward the Gran Sasso laboratory 732km away in Italy seemed to show up a tiny fraction of a second earlier than light would have.

The speed of light is widely regarded as the Universe's ultimate velocity limit. Outlined first by James Clerk Maxwell and then by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity, much of modern physics relies on the idea that nothing can travel faster than light.

For many, the most comforting explanation is that some repeated "systematic error" has so far eluded the experimenters.

Since September, more than 80 scientific papers about the finding have been posted to the arXiv pre-print server. Most propose theoretical solutions for the observation; a few claim to find problems.

Dr Bertolucci, the director of research at Cern, told BBC News: "In the last few days we have started to send a different time structure of the beam to Gran Sasso.

"This will allow Opera to repeat the measurement, removing some of the possible systematics."

The neutrinos that emerge at Gran Sasso start off as a beam of proton particles at Cern. Through a series of complex interactions, neutrino particles are generated from this beam and stream through the Earth's crust to Italy.


Pretty cool stuff!

muppet

MWWSI 2017

Declan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236
The team behind the finding in September that neutrinos may travel faster than light has carried out an improved version of their experiment - and found the same result.

rrhf

And found the same result?
They carried out the same experiment

fearglasmor

Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on October 28, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on September 23, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
This could mess up a few well known theories ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

Hadn't Queen gone faster than the speed of light?

/Jim.

No. They were "travelling at the speed of light" and wanted to "make a supersonic hero of you"  maybe Freddy got his physics a bit mixed up.

heganboy

Quote from: rrhf on November 18, 2011, 03:19:19 PM
And found the same result?
They carried out the same experiment

nope- not the same experiment
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

Olly

This is very worrying. For, example if you were on Catchphrase and didn't get what Mr Chips was trying to say, all you've have to do is buy one of those Cern Cylindars and travel back 10 seconds, get the right answer and then everyone wins all the time. The same with horse racing. Maybe you're galloping down the home straight and lost out by a head, you could travel back 5 furlongs and whip the f**k out of the horse. The same with courting. Maybe you're with a girl and slipped the hand and she slapped you or phoned her father/the police. A small ride on the Cern and you can simply go for something less heavy like a squeeze. Or the opposite. Maybe the girl/boy turned out to be as easy as hell with their next partner, you could go back in time and get the most out of her/him.
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fearglasmor

Could rightly screw up the lotto.