Johnny 5 is alive.

[The Iceman]

I think Asal Mor you have been quietly indoctrinated by Chinese Propaganda during your time there. China will probably suffer most based on over population but they have done themselves no favours either. There are whole towns and parts of towns of brand new houses and apartment complexes, shopping malls and all the infrastructure needed but nobody living there. Ghost towns and areas bought up by people hungry to invest but there are no people to live in them....

I don't buy into all the conspiracy theories but I do buy in to doing what you can to reduce your carbon footprint. Growing your own vegetables and fruits. Composting. Monitoring your water usage and using captured rain water where possible (to water the plants).....

[BennyCake]

I think Asal Mor you have been quietly indoctrinated by Chinese Propaganda during your time there. China will probably suffer most based on over population but they have done themselves no favours either. There are whole towns and parts of towns of brand new houses and apartment complexes, shopping malls and all the infrastructure needed but nobody living there. Ghost towns and areas bought up by people hungry to invest but there are no people to live in them....

I don't buy into all the conspiracy theories but I do buy in to doing what you can to reduce your carbon footprint. Growing your own vegetables and fruits. Composting. Monitoring your water usage and using captured rain water where possible (to water the plants).....

Carbon footprint me hole. The only reason people think about this is when cost is involved, like with the plastic bag tax.

Industries around the world (the US military are probably the biggest polluter) pump out god knows how much pollution but "Global warming" is all my fault because I left my TV on standby! How selfish I am!!

[BennyCake]

One more extract from "The Long Emergency" by James Howard Kunstler before I hit the hay.

We are already experiencing huge cost externalities from population
hypergrowth and profligate fossil fuel use in the form of environmental
devastation. Of the earth's estimated 10 million species, 300,000 have
vanished in the past fifty years. Each year, 3,000 to 30,000 species become
extinct, an all-time high for the last 65 million years. Within one hundred
years, between one-third and two-thirds of all birds, animals, plants,
and other species will be lost. Nearly 25 percent of the 4,630 known
mammal species are now threatened with extinction, along with 34 percent
of fish, 25 percent of amphibians, 20 percent of reptiles, and
11 percent of birds. Even more species are having population declines.
Environmental scientists speak of an "omega point" at which the vast
interconnected networks of Earth's ecologies are so weakened that
human existence is no longer possible.

I think it is a fabulous book. Very informative.

Sounds like a load of horse shite, but you pick and choose what to believe.  The earth is 4.5 Billion years old but we have fucked it up in the last 200 / 300 years - yeah sounds plausible.

Yes, very plausible 

[theskull1]

Sounds like a load of horse shite, but you pick and choose what to believe.  The earth is 4.5 Billion years old but we have fucked it up in the last 200 / 300 years - yeah sounds plausible.

Probably sounds like horse shite to those who're thick as pig shite. Pretty easy to extrapolate and come to the conclusion that exponential population growth coupled with increasing global demand for oil and food supplies will have an adverse affect on the environment.

If you dont believe me, as an experiment, stick a hose in your tail pipe and see how you get on.

[BennyCake]

So, records began 5 million years ago?

There is more than enough land on the planet to be able to sustain ten times the current population. It's only due to modern living that oil is in demand.

[seafoid]

So, records began 5 million years ago?

There is more than enough land on the planet to be able to sustain ten times the current population. It's only due to modern living that oil is in demand.

Where is the spare land? What water access does it have?

[Ulick]

I was just reading there about someone having his 5th kid. Best of luck to him, but does anyone else think that, on a dying planet where overpopulation is arguably our biggest problem(and I would argue that it is), that having five kids is extremely selfish?

Come October there'll be five children under five in our house. In 30 years time my children will most likely be paying for your upkeep.

[ONeill]

The Iceman likes the ride. Leave him alone.

[magpie seanie]

To the people advocating taxing oil and related products - what are governments doing with the money they thieve off people in this way? Sure as fcuk they aren't doing anything to help the environment or develop alternative energy sources/strategies (and they never will) so they're just robbing people to balance their books.

[The Iceman]

The Iceman likes the ride. Leave him alone.

Its the International Wife - she won't leave me alone - though it sounds like Ulick has it worse than me....
A House full of kids is great craic most of the time. And Ulick is right - they'll be paying for Asal mor's upkeep if he ever escapes China and doesn't get eaten by the starving over-population. Last In First in the soup I think the saying goes.....

[Black Card]

Sounds like a load of horse shite, but you pick and choose what to believe.  The earth is 4.5 Billion years old but we have fucked it up in the last 200 / 300 years - yeah sounds plausible.

Probably sounds like horse shite to those who're thick as pig shite. Pretty easy to extrapolate and come to the conclusion that exponential population growth coupled with increasing global demand for oil and food supplies will have an adverse affect on the environment.

If you dont believe me, as an experiment, stick a hose in your tail pipe and see how you get on.

Ah f**k I didn't think you were going to produce a graph, game over! 

[Mike Sheehy]

One more extract from "The Long Emergency" by James Howard Kunstler before I hit the hay.

We are already experiencing huge cost externalities from population
hypergrowth and profligate fossil fuel use in the form of environmental
devastation. Of the earth's estimated 10 million species, 300,000 have
vanished in the past fifty years. Each year, 3,000 to 30,000 species become
extinct, an all-time high for the last 65 million years. Within one hundred
years, between one-third and two-thirds of all birds, animals, plants,
and other species will be lost. Nearly 25 percent of the 4,630 known
mammal species are now threatened with extinction, along with 34 percent
of fish, 25 percent of amphibians, 20 percent of reptiles, and
11 percent of birds. Even more species are having population declines.
Environmental scientists speak of an "omega point" at which the vast
interconnected networks of Earth's ecologies are so weakened that
human existence is no longer possible.

I think it is a fabulous book. Very informative.

Sounds like a load of horse shite, but you pick and choose what to believe.  The earth is 4.5 Billion years old but we have fucked it up in the last 200 / 300 years - yeah sounds plausible.

Yes, very plausible 

Yeah, its almost as plausible as the theory that the cure for cancer is being supressed. You'd want to be a complete f**king moron of the highest order to believe such a thing wouldn't you ?. Thankfully there are still cool, rational people like Bennycake to point out the lunatics for us.