Dublin v Mayo, Croke Park, March 20 (or maybe the 18th, you wouldn't know).

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GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: moysider on March 21, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 21, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 21, 2011, 04:51:14 PM
You Mayo fans need a little perspective

last two results..Mayo 1-10 Armagh 2-10, Dublin 4-15 Mayo 3-13 & this place is panic stations!

Try these results we got in 2008, Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-7, Armagh 4-20 Roscommon 0-8

Quote from: ross4life on March 21, 2011, 04:51:14 PM
You Mayo fans need a little perspective

last two results..Mayo 1-10 Armagh 2-10, Dublin 4-15 Mayo 3-13 & this place is panic stations!

Try these results we got in 2008, Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-7, Armagh 4-20 Roscommon 0-8
You are right, ya know.
Maybe we tend to lose the plot a bit when things aren't going to our liking. Still, it's just good. clean fun and we wouldn't swap our new man for anything. (Well, not just yet..)
Mayo are team building for just a few months now and there is a long hard road to go yet before we can make any sort of judgement on James and his managerial skills. (Ya couldn't say the same about his predecessor unfortunately but sin scéal eile.)
A seasoned oul' Dub supporter put it to me as we were leaving the ground yesterday that the big difference between the teams yesterday was that Pat Gilroy had a head start of two years of team building on James Horan and we should look at the positive aspects of our game yesterday and make the appropriate allowances.
Right now, I'd settle for a Connacht title for this year and take anything else as a bonus. And Connacht could be very interesting indeed. League form won't count for much this year. Ross have a very handy side and will put it up to anyone- west of the Shannon anyway.
Sligo haven't gone away either. Walsh will have a job getting his side to put the trauma of the last final behind them but he is an old hand at the managerial game by now and if anyone can get Sligo focused again, he is the man for the job.
Connacht is a three-horse race this year- make no mistake about that.

Ok, so that s Galway and what other two Lar? Roscommon and Sligo I assume based on being further along the road as regards development and last years championship? But I think it s a bit premature to dismiss Mayo.

I think it's us he's dismissing and while I don't think we are in great shape at present I still don't think the other sides in Connacht are much better than us. If at all. Well maybe apart from Mayo who possibly have a slight edge on everyone else but not enough that they can rest comfortably on it.

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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 21, 2011, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 21, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 21, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 21, 2011, 04:51:14 PM
You Mayo fans need a little perspective

last two results..Mayo 1-10 Armagh 2-10, Dublin 4-15 Mayo 3-13 & this place is panic stations!

Try these results we got in 2008, Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-7, Armagh 4-20 Roscommon 0-8

Quote from: ross4life on March 21, 2011, 04:51:14 PM
You Mayo fans need a little perspective

last two results..Mayo 1-10 Armagh 2-10, Dublin 4-15 Mayo 3-13 & this place is panic stations!

Try these results we got in 2008, Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-7, Armagh 4-20 Roscommon 0-8
You are right, ya know.
Maybe we tend to lose the plot a bit when things aren't going to our liking. Still, it's just good. clean fun and we wouldn't swap our new man for anything. (Well, not just yet..)
Mayo are team building for just a few months now and there is a long hard road to go yet before we can make any sort of judgement on James and his managerial skills. (Ya couldn't say the same about his predecessor unfortunately but sin scéal eile.)
A seasoned oul' Dub supporter put it to me as we were leaving the ground yesterday that the big difference between the teams yesterday was that Pat Gilroy had a head start of two years of team building on James Horan and we should look at the positive aspects of our game yesterday and make the appropriate allowances.
Right now, I'd settle for a Connacht title for this year and take anything else as a bonus. And Connacht could be very interesting indeed. League form won't count for much this year. Ross have a very handy side and will put it up to anyone- west of the Shannon anyway.
Sligo haven't gone away either. Walsh will have a job getting his side to put the trauma of the last final behind them but he is an old hand at the managerial game by now and if anyone can get Sligo focused again, he is the man for the job.
Connacht is a three-horse race this year- make no mistake about that.

Ok, so that s Galway and what other two Lar? Roscommon and Sligo I assume based on being further along the road as regards development and last years championship? But I think it s a bit premature to dismiss Mayo.

I think it's us he's dismissing and while I don't think we are in great shape at present I still don't think the other sides in Connacht are much better than us. If at all. Well maybe apart from Mayo who possibly have a slight edge on everyone else but not enough that they can rest comfortably on it.

Leitrim, London & New York obviously.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

moysider

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 21, 2011, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 21, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 21, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 21, 2011, 04:51:14 PM
You Mayo fans need a little perspective

last two results..Mayo 1-10 Armagh 2-10, Dublin 4-15 Mayo 3-13 & this place is panic stations!

Try these results we got in 2008, Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-7, Armagh 4-20 Roscommon 0-8

Quote from: ross4life on March 21, 2011, 04:51:14 PM
You Mayo fans need a little perspective

last two results..Mayo 1-10 Armagh 2-10, Dublin 4-15 Mayo 3-13 & this place is panic stations!

Try these results we got in 2008, Dublin 3-20 Roscommon 0-7, Armagh 4-20 Roscommon 0-8
You are right, ya know.
Maybe we tend to lose the plot a bit when things aren't going to our liking. Still, it's just good. clean fun and we wouldn't swap our new man for anything. (Well, not just yet..)
Mayo are team building for just a few months now and there is a long hard road to go yet before we can make any sort of judgement on James and his managerial skills. (Ya couldn't say the same about his predecessor unfortunately but sin scéal eile.)
A seasoned oul' Dub supporter put it to me as we were leaving the ground yesterday that the big difference between the teams yesterday was that Pat Gilroy had a head start of two years of team building on James Horan and we should look at the positive aspects of our game yesterday and make the appropriate allowances.
Right now, I'd settle for a Connacht title for this year and take anything else as a bonus. And Connacht could be very interesting indeed. League form won't count for much this year. Ross have a very handy side and will put it up to anyone- west of the Shannon anyway.
Sligo haven't gone away either. Walsh will have a job getting his side to put the trauma of the last final behind them but he is an old hand at the managerial game by now and if anyone can get Sligo focused again, he is the man for the job.
Connacht is a three-horse race this year- make no mistake about that.

Ok, so that s Galway and what other two Lar? Roscommon and Sligo I assume based on being further along the road as regards development and last years championship? But I think it s a bit premature to dismiss Mayo.

I think it's us he's dismissing and while I don't think we are in great shape at present I still don't think the other sides in Connacht are much better than us. If at all. Well maybe apart from Mayo who possibly have a slight edge on everyone else but not enough that they can rest comfortably on it.

Not at all. How could he be dismissing Galway? The man knows his history better than most I would wager. Everybody knows that Galway pick up any stray ones in Connacht, even with ordinary teams by their standard. It should not be lost on anybody that Galway got as close to Cork as anybody has yesterday. Ok, Cork looked like they were sleep walking but it is to Galways credit that they didn't bother waking them up. Cuteness still counts for something. All bullshit aside, Galways 3 best players have to return. PJ, Bradshaw and Meehan would walk into any county team. I know most Galway posters dont rate him but Matt Clancy is back and gives them a lot of energy as well. something some of their more classier players do not. I like how Flaherty is willing to put Hanley into midfield as well and not accept that he was born with the number 3 tatooed on his arse.

Clearly he is dismissing Mayo but hey...., I m sure he will be able to explain it himself.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: moysider on March 21, 2011, 11:53:09 PM
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Clearly he is dismissing Mayo but hey...., I m sure he will be able to explain it himself.


I've no problem saying that I think Mayo are best placed to win Connacht this year.
I think Sligo and Ross are in with a shout definitely but neither are playing particularly well in the league and unlike Mayo and Galway, neither are competing against top flight sides.
I don't see Galway getting anywhere this year. They have internal problems. Thos eproblems were ther before Joe kernan arrived and  Fathasrta hhasn't gt anything like a settld side yet.
I'd never rule Galway out of any game until the gameis well and truly over but they are not playing with any unity of purpose and haven't been for some time. Ross will try their damndest to hold on to their crown and won't fear anyone. But they have no element of surprise left and O'Donnell would need to have them playing at full stretch now if they are to be serious contenders for anything. Remember that Horan has the least settled side in the province at the moment so Mayo have the greatest chance of improvement between now and the sar of the championships.
Mayo have the midfield and forwards to match anyone west of the Shannon and with O'Se, Varey, Ronaldson and Kilcoyne in the wings Horan has more potential upfront than anyone else.
I don't kknow the story with Conoreen or Barry Moran but if they are available all the better for us.
Mayo won't be lacking at midfield either  and any weakness will be at the back but there again it's a case of finding thhe best combination rather than not having good players.
I think Sligo hasn't fully recovered from the trauma of losing out on the Connacht title last year. If they are to make serious waves this championships, Walsh should have them on a roll by now.
In order of preference, I'd go with Mayo, Ross and Sligo. Galway problems seem to be in their minds and not in their boots and it is one of long standing.
Still, I won't rest easy until they are bet and the crowd have gone home. ;D
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

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AbbeySider


stephenite


Tubberman

Quote from: stephenite on March 23, 2011, 10:15:50 AM
I thought Clarke was named on the bench last weekend?

According to The Mayo News he was, and according to another thread Kenneth O'Malley is no longer in the panel.
I very much doubt that would have happened if Clarke was out for the year.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

moysider


Clarke was sub keeper v Dublin and I believe he is sound. Probably needs a few games.

macdanger2

As i was watching the replay of the match on TG4 on Monday night, it struck me that Mayo might have actually be trying to play offside in the first twenty minutes - every time the ball came in, the full back line rushed out leaving the poor plebs from Dublin in an offside position.........not sure how this new tactic is going to work out for us  ;)

AbbeySider

Quote from: macdanger2 on March 24, 2011, 12:26:04 AM
As i was watching the replay of the match on TG4 on Monday night, it struck me that Mayo might have actually be trying to play offside in the first twenty minutes - every time the ball came in, the full back line rushed out leaving the poor plebs from Dublin in an offside position.........not sure how this new tactic is going to work out for us  ;)

:D