Prayers and praying.......

Started by PadraicHenryPearse, March 04, 2011, 03:49:52 AM

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stephenite

Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 08, 2011, 12:32:56 AM
Nehemiah - A Cupbearer


I feel a bit stupid, because nobody else has asked this, that means I'm the only one wondering what the hell a Cupbearer does?

As for the bible being naturally mis-translated over the ages, does that mean God created the world in 70 days with numerous rest days? I still find it absurd

BarryBreensBandage

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 08, 2011, 10:01:50 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 08, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 08, 2011, 05:17:52 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 08, 2011, 12:32:56 AM
To finish off, a list that I found interesting -  of people who believed in Jesus Christ:
Moses - A political leader, trained in the universities of Egypt,
Peter - A fisherman
Amos - A herdsman
Joshua - A military General
Nehemiah - A Cupbearer
Daniel - A Prime Minister
Luke - A Doctor
Solomon - A King
Matthew - A Tax Collector
Paul - A Rabbi

Were they, and our parents all wrong?


Most of those people never heard of Jesus Christ.

Even though they are listed among the authors of the bible?
Yes. Since a lot of them lived and died long before Jesus came around, knowing the man would have been quite an achievement.

(You are aware that the Old Testamant stories were all set in the BC era, aren't you?)

That last bit does not even credit a response.
Could I just ask that you read my posts properly - some difference in knowledge and belief - to back up what I was saying, the belief in Jesus Christ in the Old Testament for ref: Book of Leviticus.
Also, He was not called Jesus Christ at this juncture, but there was certainly belief in a "Lamb of God", a substitute for us that God would send, to be sacrificed in place of man for all sins committed  (Genesis ch 22).
Is this not what links the Old and New Testament and is the fundamental message of the Bible, whether you believe it or not?
So to my original point, again if you read the post properly was - were people fools for believing this theory?
"Some people say I am indecisive..... maybe I am, maybe I'm not".

theskull1

Of course the historical jesus could have been the self fulfilling prophesy that was predicted
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

BarryBreensBandage

Quote from: stephenite on March 08, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 08, 2011, 12:32:56 AM
Nehemiah - A Cupbearer


I feel a bit stupid, because nobody else has asked this, that means I'm the only one wondering what the hell a Cupbearer does?

As for the bible being naturally mis-translated over the ages, does that mean God created the world in 70 days with numerous rest days? I still find it absurd

"I believe in God because it is impossible to believe. I believe in God because it is absurd". - Tertullian

"If you believe in the possible, it is of no consequence. If you believe in the argument it is not religious. This approach belongs to science. Only if you believe in the absurd does something come from you that is beyond the mind." - Eckhart

"You are a fool if you are only rational. To be rational is not enough. The irrational must have its own corner to exist. Only if a person is both rational and irrational is he reasonable". Lao Tzu
"Some people say I am indecisive..... maybe I am, maybe I'm not".

Hardy


Maguire01

Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 08, 2011, 12:32:56 AM
To finish off, a list that I found interesting -  of people who believed in Jesus Christ:
Moses - A political leader, trained in the universities of Egypt,
Peter - A fisherman
Amos - A herdsman
Joshua - A military General
Nehemiah - A Cupbearer
Daniel - A Prime Minister
Luke - A Doctor
Solomon - A King
Matthew - A Tax Collector
Paul - A Rabbi

Were they, and our parents all wrong?
In a word, yes.

Although I don't see where you're going with this list.

stephenite

Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 09, 2011, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: stephenite on March 08, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on March 08, 2011, 12:32:56 AM
Nehemiah - A Cupbearer


I feel a bit stupid, because nobody else has asked this, that means I'm the only one wondering what the hell a Cupbearer does?

As for the bible being naturally mis-translated over the ages, does that mean God created the world in 70 days with numerous rest days? I still find it absurd

"I believe in God because it is impossible to believe. I believe in God because it is absurd". - Tertullian

"If you believe in the possible, it is of no consequence. If you believe in the argument it is not religious. This approach belongs to science. Only if you believe in the absurd does something come from you that is beyond the mind." - Eckhart

"You are a fool if you are only rational. To be rational is not enough. The irrational must have its own corner to exist. Only if a person is both rational and irrational is he reasonable". Lao Tzu

And Cupbearer, maybe it's a sort of an ancient waiter?

I checked, it is, more of a loungeboy really

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cupbearer