Obama Visit

[seafoid]

As a journalist said he should at least have referenced who he was quoting.

Right, so he should have said "and for the benefit of the politically illiterate, that's a quote from Obama's acceptance speech"? Yeah, that would have been smooth.

Eamon normally I find your posts intelligent so you're obviously being deliberately thick and sarcastic this time. Have a listen to Obama's speeches where its either "in the words of" or "as one of your great poets says". It was widely covered in media circles that FG f**ked it up by not covering that end of it. So maybe no need for the extreme trashing of my opinion. I think you know well what I (and others) meant.

Well I am in a thick and sarcastic mood these days (well spotted  ), but in all seriousness I honestly don't think attribution would have added anything to the speech. I think that would have been patronising to the audience, implying that they wouldn't have known who said the original words. I mean if I said "ask not what your county board can do for you, ask what you can do for your county board," would it really be necessary to prefix it with "to paraphrase JFK" or would it be better to let the audience make the obvious connection themselves? Sometimes if you spell everything out too much for the audience you lose some of the effect. It's like telling a joke and then explaining why it's funny, it'd completely take away from the effect you're trying to have.

I doubt anyone there knew the original words Eamon. (we're not that well versed in Obama oratory) It was picked up on by the media the following day. Anyway I was only making a point that many others made. It was a very short but enjoyable event and Enda and his speech didnt add or take from it in any way. Like I said before his image was better on the world stage than that of Cowen and for once it was good to see that slieveen Ahern take a back seat when the US president was over.

I was thinking the same. Cowen stayed on way past his bedtime and did the country a lot of damage.

[NetNitrate]

Have to agree with the journalists on this one. I have noticed this goes on a lot. I was reading Joyce's Ulysses (could have benefited from a good edit) and I noticed that he didn't give any credit to Homer. It has come to my attention that some of the lines such as "we are sailing over a wine dark sea" were taken directly from Homer. But I didn't see any credit given to poor old Homer at all. I have sent my analysis off to some English professors at Trinity and UCD but haven't heard back yet. I might even send it to the journalists at Today FM who noticed Enda didn't credit Obama with his opening remarks. I'd say it would make a good news story and might take Joyce down a peg or two.

[ross matt]

I doubt anyone there knew the original words Eamon. (we're not that well versed in Obama oratory) It was picked up on by the media the following day. Anyway I was only making a point that many others made. It was a very short but enjoyable event and Enda and his speech didnt add or take from it in any way. Like I said before his image was better on the world stage than that of Cowen and for once it was good to see that slieveen Ahern take a back seat when the US president was over.

Jesus, God forbid if Cowen were still in charge. He'd have been half cut, would have slurred his words and would have been booed off the stage. Did you see the skit Jay Leno did on him? Cowen literally turned the country into a laughing stock.

Yeah Eamon. The Leno skit received widespread coverage over here. Based on Cowan's "throaty voice" in an early morning interview after a party knees up in the Ardilaun hotel.

[AbbeySider]

Maybe its Obama thats the guy with the really bad and wrong timing?

Firstly he came out at the wrong time during Enda's speech which made the crowd hard to control.

And he suffered another blunder when he spoke during the English national anthem!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRXGRFJdDY

[Declan]

More spot on estimating from the Dept of "we cant count properly"


Bill for Obama and Queen visits almost double original estimate
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 02:20 PM


The cost of the visits of the Queen and President Obama is almost twice as high as initially estimated it was revealed today.

Justice Minister Alan Shatter told a Dáil Committeetoday that the final bill will now be €36m.

Just a few weeks, ago Minister Shatter had thought the final bill might be around €20m.

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/bill-for-obama-and-queen-visits-almost-double-original-estimate-512496.html#ixzz1RtrBfNYw

[ross matt]

More spot on estimating from the Dept of "we cant count properly"


Bill for Obama and Queen visits almost double original estimate
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 02:20 PM


The cost of the visits of the Queen and President Obama is almost twice as high as initially estimated it was revealed today.

Justice Minister Alan Shatter told a Dáil Committeetoday that the final bill will now be €36m.

Just a few weeks, ago Minister Shatter had thought the final bill might be around €20m.

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/bill-for-obama-and-queen-visits-almost-double-original-estimate-512496.html#ixzz1RtrBfNYw

Oh sweet Jesus. I wonder does this mean they underestimated the tourist revenue expected from the visits  !

[Canalman]

Not to worry, this is going to get zero/minimal coverage in the papers/ mainstream media.

Mark my words, wait till you see the caterwauling about "the cost" when the Pope visits in 2012 (I think). "

[gerrykeegan]

HENRY Healy went to great trouble to get his long lost cousin Barack Obama to Ireland last year, and he clearly made an impression, as he's going to Washington at the personal invitation of the President.

However it's emerged that Healy almost had to cancel his trip, after being called for jury duty on March 20th . However he wrote to the court authorities explaining he would be in America with his cousin the President of the United States on the date he was due to attend at Tullamore court, so has been excused from court.

Without a doubt the best ever excuse for been excused from jury duty