Sean Cavanagh

[longrunsthefox]

Much ado about nothing. When February comes around this will be long forgot about. Sean is so gullible Mickey will take him in and pat him on the head and it won't be an issue. Last year Sean was saying the Australian game meant more than winning an All Ireland with Tyrone ffs  , then this year told us Tyrone players are on the 'bread-line.' He gets caught up in the moment or wound up by the GPA bosses. If he stuck to playing football he could win more All Ireland and All Stars.

Thought it was scandalous by Harte and I don't believe thats the end of it. I doubt Cavanagh will forgive him as easily as that. Surely he would have felt under more pressure in the 2008 final when he simply had to perform then this year where tyrone had a much better team on paper.

I agree with you-Harte was bang out of order but you'll find a few months later when the McKenna cup or league starts will be old news. Sean is hardly going to stop playing and Harte ain't going anywhere. So, they'll just have to get on with it. 

[NaomhBridAbú]

I am a bit shocked at the anti-harte sentiment - and only more surprised at the pro-cavanagh sentiment.

Not sure its that much of a story - cavanagh had the flu and watching him in the last 5 minutes of the game when he was drenched, supports that view a bit.

Harte has a book - regardless of the PR - it will sell well in and ouit of GAA circles...harte has proven time and time again that he is not stupid...he is smart enough to win 3 all ireland seniors...smart enough to write a weekly column in a paper...smart enough as a public speaker and as a motivator...some of what cavanagh has said and done in the recent past may run against Mickey Hartes purist view of the association, but he is hardly the sort to put anything infront of an All Ireland semi final...if cavanagh had been fit to play, harte would have played him...

[DCR]

I am a bit shocked at the anti-harte sentiment - and only more surprised at the pro-cavanagh sentiment.

Not sure its that much of a story - cavanagh had the flu and watching him in the last 5 minutes of the game when he was drenched, supports that view a bit.

Harte has a book - regardless of the PR - it will sell well in and ouit of GAA circles...harte has proven time and time again that he is not stupid...he is smart enough to win 3 all ireland seniors...smart enough to write a weekly column in a paper...smart enough as a public speaker and as a motivator...some of what cavanagh has said and done in the recent past may run against Mickey Hartes purist view of the association, but he is hardly the sort to put anything infront of an All Ireland semi final...if cavanagh had been fit to play, harte would have played him...

"Smart enough" he may well be but you don't betray palyer confidences while you are still in post. Period.

[NaomhBridAbú]

I am a bit shocked at the anti-harte sentiment - and only more surprised at the pro-cavanagh sentiment.

Not sure its that much of a story - cavanagh had the flu and watching him in the last 5 minutes of the game when he was drenched, supports that view a bit.

Harte has a book - regardless of the PR - it will sell well in and ouit of GAA circles...harte has proven time and time again that he is not stupid...he is smart enough to win 3 all ireland seniors...smart enough to write a weekly column in a paper...smart enough as a public speaker and as a motivator...some of what cavanagh has said and done in the recent past may run against Mickey Hartes purist view of the association, but he is hardly the sort to put anything infront of an All Ireland semi final...if cavanagh had been fit to play, harte would have played him...

"Smart enough" he may well be but you don't betray palyer confidences while you are still in post. Period.

Fair point - there will be three sides to this story, and I suspect that there is more to it than we know about...it all seems just a little bit imbalanced here in favour of cavanagh

[DCR]

I am a bit shocked at the anti-harte sentiment - and only more surprised at the pro-cavanagh sentiment.

Not sure its that much of a story - cavanagh had the flu and watching him in the last 5 minutes of the game when he was drenched, supports that view a bit.

Harte has a book - regardless of the PR - it will sell well in and ouit of GAA circles...harte has proven time and time again that he is not stupid...he is smart enough to win 3 all ireland seniors...smart enough to write a weekly column in a paper...smart enough as a public speaker and as a motivator...some of what cavanagh has said and done in the recent past may run against Mickey Hartes purist view of the association, but he is hardly the sort to put anything infront of an All Ireland semi final...if cavanagh had been fit to play, harte would have played him...

"Smart enough" he may well be but you don't betray palyer confidences while you are still in post. Period.

Fair point - there will be three sides to this story, and I suspect that there is more to it than we know about...it all seems just a little bit imbalanced here in favour of cavanagh

... but you don't betray player confidences while you are still in post. Period.

[Main Street]

What breach of player confidence are you talking about?
Did MH reveal something that was to be kept in confidence?

It reads to me that Mickey's musings are not a breach of confidence.

[harlechman]

I am a bit shocked at the anti-harte sentiment - and only more surprised at the pro-cavanagh sentiment.

Not sure its that much of a story - cavanagh had the flu and watching him in the last 5 minutes of the game when he was drenched, supports that view a bit.

Harte has a book - regardless of the PR - it will sell well in and ouit of GAA circles...harte has proven time and time again that he is not stupid...he is smart enough to win 3 all ireland seniors...smart enough to write a weekly column in a paper...smart enough as a public speaker and as a motivator...some of what cavanagh has said and done in the recent past may run against Mickey Hartes purist view of the association, but he is hardly the sort to put anything infront of an All Ireland semi final...if cavanagh had been fit to play, harte would have played him...

"Smart enough" he may well be but you don't betray palyer confidences while you are still in post. Period.

Are you American?

[under the bar]

"Smart enough" he may well be but you don't betray palyer confidences while you are still in post. Period.

Are you American?

Either that or its his time of the month

[longrunsthefox]

What breach of player confidence are you talking about?
Did MH reveal something that was to be kept in confidence?

It reads to me that Mickey's musings are not a breach of confidence.

So Sean said it was ok to refer to his forthcoming marriage and GPA comitments as part of the pressure got to him before Cork game? ...or did Mickey just read his mind? 

[under the bar]

So Sean said it was ok to refer to his forthcoming marriage and GPA comitments as part of the pressure got to him before Cork game? ...or did Mickey just read his mind?  [/quote

Well Michaela's psychic so who knows???

[Main Street]

So Sean said it was ok to refer to his forthcoming marriage and GPA comitments as part of the pressure got to him before Cork game? ...or did Mickey just read his mind? 

Did Cavanagh confide in Mickey about those pressures? If he did confide,  then unless MH got permission it would be a breach of confidence.

If it happened as we are told in the book, MH is merely musing about the pressures that may have affected Sean.
That is not a breach/betrayal of confidence.

Unless Sean suffers from the common Nordie paranoia, is emotionally weak, is a desperately insecure chap, unsure of his football ability, unsure of his place in MH's scheme of all things Tyrone football, the book will not affect him.
I'd trust that Sean Cavanagh has a good bit more cop on, than he is credited for by posters here.

[DCR]

I am a bit shocked at the anti-harte sentiment - and only more surprised at the pro-cavanagh sentiment.

Not sure its that much of a story - cavanagh had the flu and watching him in the last 5 minutes of the game when he was drenched, supports that view a bit.

Harte has a book - regardless of the PR - it will sell well in and ouit of GAA circles...harte has proven time and time again that he is not stupid...he is smart enough to win 3 all ireland seniors...smart enough to write a weekly column in a paper...smart enough as a public speaker and as a motivator...some of what cavanagh has said and done in the recent past may run against Mickey Hartes purist view of the association, but he is hardly the sort to put anything infront of an All Ireland semi final...if cavanagh had been fit to play, harte would have played him...

"Smart enough" he may well be but you don't betray palyer confidences while you are still in post. Period.

Are you American?

No - just educated.

[theskull1]

Of course we'll all look forward to Sean's version of events once he decides to get a journalist to put pen to paper   

Heard an advert for some M Jackson film coming out shortly

"Discover the man you never knew"   

What is it with our society and the fasination with high profile individuals (through exposure in the media) and their story? Do they have something more to say than the rest of us?

[DCR]

Is Mickey a Psychiatrist?

What qualifications do Psychiatrists need?

Psychiatrists need to be good communicators capable of working with a multidisciplinary team to provide the support services needed for a wide array of acute and chronic psychiatric conditions. Their personal qualities should include:

Good listening skills, careful history taking, a high degree of interpersonal skills, good clinical skills with sound experience in Psychiatry, a calm demeanor with patients, caregivers, colleagues, a high level of interviewing skills, excellent record-keeping skills, a clear understanding of socially acceptable and unacceptable behavior without casting judgment on patients and a willingness to respond to emergencies as needed.

[orangeman]

Harte - new insight into the Sean Cavanagh debate :



Harte will demand more of himself and his backroom team too. He acknowledges that his role will have to be addressed as part of the renewal process.



"It's a challenge for all of us. My own contribution will have to change. I can push myself harder. I can find new ways to inform our players. I can connect with them better.

"Our experience with Sean Cavanagh on the morning of the Cork game and the way the team failed to counter Cork's kick-out tactic despite all our work shows the need to continually improve our methods of communication with the players. Are they seeing the game as we do? Are we doing enough to understand their state of mind? The coming season is going to force us to monitor individuals more closely."

He has promised to carry out more one-on-one assessments and provide extra details for players on their own performances and development.