60s football was better

[Onlooker]

Mattie McDonagh (Galway) is the only Connacht player with 4 All Ireland medals, but there are loads of them in Kerry and ther must be a good few in Wexford from their 4 in a row team.

[tyssam5]

old football was crap. how many training sessions did county sides put in in those days anyway? tyrone have taken the gaa forward and everyone should realize that. TOTAL FOOTBALL. down are worried that if tyrone win another sam this year they will undoubtedly be the best team ulster has EVER produced!!

Maybe the best team the 6 counties has produced but it will be along time before Tyrone by pass Cavans teams of the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Is that true? If you take the present Tyrone team, more than half of them have 3 All-Irelands. Not sure about any of the Cavan teams, but I know there wasn't many players from 60,61 on the Down 68 team, maybe 3 or 4 max? How many Cavan men have 3 or more AI medals?

I'm not sure but an awful lot of them would have 2 and I believe a couple of them had 3. How many Ulster titles do the Tyrone players have. Cavan players of that era would have 7 - 10 I'd imagine.

So you're agreeing that in terms of winning All-Ireland the current Tyrone team is the best ever from Ulster?

I'll leave it between Cavan and Armagh for most consistent Ulster winners.

[mylestheslasher]

old football was crap. how many training sessions did county sides put in in those days anyway? tyrone have taken the gaa forward and everyone should realize that. TOTAL FOOTBALL. down are worried that if tyrone win another sam this year they will undoubtedly be the best team ulster has EVER produced!!

Maybe the best team the 6 counties has produced but it will be along time before Tyrone by pass Cavans teams of the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Is that true? If you take the present Tyrone team, more than half of them have 3 All-Irelands. Not sure about any of the Cavan teams, but I know there wasn't many players from 60,61 on the Down 68 team, maybe 3 or 4 max? How many Cavan men have 3 or more AI medals?

I'm not sure but an awful lot of them would have 2 and I believe a couple of them had 3. How many Ulster titles do the Tyrone players have. Cavan players of that era would have 7 - 10 I'd imagine.

So you're agreeing that in terms of winning All-Ireland the current Tyrone team is the best ever from Ulster?

I'll leave it between Cavan and Armagh for most consistent Ulster winners.

Emm, no i'm not. If they win this yr they probably would be

[Hardy]

Thanks lads. Great detective work 5 Sams. I should have known it would be a tricky one, given the lad who came up with it. Should be worth a pint to me.

[tyssam5]

old football was crap. how many training sessions did county sides put in in those days anyway? tyrone have taken the gaa forward and everyone should realize that. TOTAL FOOTBALL. down are worried that if tyrone win another sam this year they will undoubtedly be the best team ulster has EVER produced!!

Maybe the best team the 6 counties has produced but it will be along time before Tyrone by pass Cavans teams of the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Is that true? If you take the present Tyrone team, more than half of them have 3 All-Irelands. Not sure about any of the Cavan teams, but I know there wasn't many players from 60,61 on the Down 68 team, maybe 3 or 4 max? How many Cavan men have 3 or more AI medals?

I'm not sure but an awful lot of them would have 2 and I believe a couple of them had 3. How many Ulster titles do the Tyrone players have. Cavan players of that era would have 7 - 10 I'd imagine.

So you're agreeing that in terms of winning All-Ireland the current Tyrone team is the best ever from Ulster?

I'll leave it between Cavan and Armagh for most consistent Ulster winners.

Emm, no i'm not. If they win this yr they probably would be

Worth a try. I looked at Cavan's role of honour there, 47/48 & 52. 3 from 6 years, same as present Tyrone team (and with a title defence) would be interesting to know the 3 starting line-ups.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Why should I cop myself on Ziggy - because you don' agree with me. Your dad might be a sound knowledgable man but that doesn't mean there are plenty of others that disregard football from past eras. There are plenty of comments on this board about how crap football was in the 60's and beyond which doesn't take a huge leap to saying the teams that played the football were also crap in comparison with todays teams.

Maybe cos you're full of shit Myles... positivity about Derry beating Tyrone being but the most recent example, never mind delving into the distant and dreamy decades of Cavan greatness 

By the way, are you "positive" that Cavan will beat Antrim on Saturday? 

[talktothehand]

what i meant to say was that i feel down had much less to compete with back in the day. they broke new ground and changed the face of the game much like tyrone now. i remember my da with joe lennons coaching book for years lol. i just feel that the general standard is higher now. everyone trains hard, watches their diet and with. some notable exceptions, goes easy on the swally. my point was if tyrone win this year they have won more in a shorter time than down in the sixties. we have beaten the defending champions in all our victorious finals and if victorious in 2009 can topple the only Down arguement in respect to a successful defense of sam.

[mylestheslasher]

Why should I cop myself on Ziggy - because you don' agree with me. Your dad might be a sound knowledgable man but that doesn't mean there are plenty of others that disregard football from past eras. There are plenty of comments on this board about how crap football was in the 60's and beyond which doesn't take a huge leap to saying the teams that played the football were also crap in comparison with todays teams.

Maybe cos you're full of shit Myles... positivity about Derry beating Tyrone being but the most recent example, never mind delving into the distant and dreamy decades of Cavan greatness 

By the way, are you "positive" that Cavan will beat Antrim on Saturday? 

I thought Derry would  beat Tyrone but my uber confidence was in jest. Should have known that some would not have the wit to detect that

Since the thread is about football from a by-gone era, did you not expect to find people talking about that on here or maybe for Tyrone supporters a by gone era is 2003, when football began

Cavan were the first Ulster team to win the all ireland, the only team to win it outside of Ireland and by far the most succesful team in the history of Ulster football. Cavan have contested 10 all Ireland finals, 3 which went to replays and won 5. These occured in 28, 33, 35, 37R, 43R, 45, 47, 48, 49, 52R. Those are the facts. Tyrone are an excellent team and by far the most successful team in modern Ulster history and I was delighted to see them win their finals but don't lose the run of yourselves lad, ye have a way to go before you call yourself the greatest.
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[talktothehand]

this year could be our 6th final and fourth sam. we're catching ye

[mylestheslasher]

old football was crap. how many training sessions did county sides put in in those days anyway? tyrone have taken the gaa forward and everyone should realize that. TOTAL FOOTBALL. down are worried that if tyrone win another sam this year they will undoubtedly be the best team ulster has EVER produced!!

Maybe the best team the 6 counties has produced but it will be along time before Tyrone by pass Cavans teams of the 30's, 40's and 50's.

Is that true? If you take the present Tyrone team, more than half of them have 3 All-Irelands. Not sure about any of the Cavan teams, but I know there wasn't many players from 60,61 on the Down 68 team, maybe 3 or 4 max? How many Cavan men have 3 or more AI medals?

I'm not sure but an awful lot of them would have 2 and I believe a couple of them had 3. How many Ulster titles do the Tyrone players have. Cavan players of that era would have 7 - 10 I'd imagine.

So you're agreeing that in terms of winning All-Ireland the current Tyrone team is the best ever from Ulster?

I'll leave it between Cavan and Armagh for most consistent Ulster winners.

Emm, no i'm not. If they win this yr they probably would be

Worth a try. I looked at Cavan's role of honour there, 47/48 & 52. 3 from 6 years, same as present Tyrone team (and with a title defence) would be interesting to know the 3 starting line-ups.

With 2 title defences, one in 49. Mick Higgins and Tony Tighe won 3 medals, quite a lot have 2.  The teams were as follows...

1933: W. Young, M. Denneny, J. Smith, W. Connolly, Tom O'Reilly, P. Lynch, P. Phair, H. O'Reilly, T. Coyle, L. Blessing, P. Devlin, D. Morgan, J. Smallhorn, V. McGovern, M. Magee. Subs: Tom O'Reilly (Mullahoran), T. Crowe, P. Connolly

1935: W. Young, W. Connolly, J. Smith, M. Denneny, T. Dolan, T. O'Reilly (Mullahoran), P. Phair, H. O'Reilly, T. O'Reilly, D. Morgan, P. Devlin, J. Smallhorn, P. Boylan, L. Blessing, M. Magee

1947: V. Gannon, W. Doonan, B. O'Reilly, P. Smith, J. Wilson, J.J. O'Reilly, S. Deignan, P.J. Duke, P. Brady, A. Tighe, M. Higgins, C. McDyer, J. Stafford, P. Donohoe, T.P. O'Reilly.

1948: J.D. Benson, W. Doonan, B. O'Reilly, P. Smith, P.J. Duke, J.J. O'Reilly, S. Deignan, P. Brady, V. Sherlock, A. Tighe, M. Higgins, J.J. Cassidy, J. Stafford, P. Donohoe, E. Carolan. Sub: O. McGovern

1952 (draw): S. Morris, J. McCabe, P. Brady, D. Maguire, P. Carolan, L. Maguire, B. O'Reilly, T. Hardy, V. Sherlock, S. Hetherton, M. Higgins, E. Carolan, J.J. Cassidy, A. Tighe, P. Fitzsimons

1952 (replay): S. Morris, J. McCabe, P. Brady, D. Maguire, P. Carolan, L. Maguire, B. O'Reilly, T. Hardy, V. Sherlock, S. Hetherton, M. Higgins, E. Carolan, J.J. Cassidy, A. Tighe, J. Cusack. Sub: P. Fitzsimons

[Onlooker]

Does Phil "Gunner" Brady not have 3 All Ireland medals as well as Mick Higgins and Tony Tighe?.

[Farrandeelin]

It's amazing that Tyrone, the glamour team of the decade, the greatest team on Earth have a poorish record against Mayo. Really, sure we never win anything...

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

It's amazing that Tyrone, the glamour team of the decade, the greatest team on Earth have a poorish record against Mayo. Really, sure we never win anything...

Ah jeez Farrandeelin sure isn't my poor oul heart still broken to pieces after the year football was really invented as a result of your great selves in Croker itself '04, not to mention the glory days before the dinosaurs in '51! 

[mylestheslasher]

Does Phil "Gunner" Brady not have 3 All Ireland medals as well as Mick Higgins and Tony Tighe?.

Yes he does, forgot him.

[talktothehand]

It's amazing that Tyrone, the glamour team of the decade, the greatest team on Earth have a poorish record against Mayo. Really, sure we never win anything...

and the score last season was what?