Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Cortoon on June 30, 2025, 09:41:07 AMIn the last two minutes of the game, the clock should stop every time the ball is not in play.  :-\  :-\  :-\

The clock is only supposed to stop at injuries and substitutions.
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blanketattack

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2025, 08:53:31 PM
Quote from: Cortoon on June 30, 2025, 09:41:07 AMIn the last two minutes of the game, the clock should stop every time the ball is not in play.  :-\  :-\  :-\

The clock is only supposed to stop at injuries and substitutions.

And for goalies going forward to take frees.

David McKeown

I asked it on the All Ireland thread yesterday but I'll ask again here as it's a more appropriate place.

Tyrone had an advantage late on yesterday. They scored a point when on the advantage due to a great block. They were then allowed to go back out for the free instead of taking the point. Is that allowed?

I thought the advantage was over if you scored. Are teams to be given a choice?
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: David McKeown on July 13, 2025, 10:58:19 AMI asked it on the All Ireland thread yesterday but I'll ask again here as it's a more appropriate place.

Tyrone had an advantage late on yesterday. They scored a point when on the advantage due to a great block. They were then allowed to go back out for the free instead of taking the point. Is that allowed?

I thought the advantage was over if you scored. Are teams to be given a choice?

You are given the '5' second's regardless

Now there is some advantage thats given and it looks longer than 5 seconds

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DaleCooper

BBC iplayer

56.09 Tyrone player [mcgeary] fouled for a free, ref seems to have played advantage. Tyrone player continues onwards and is fouled again deliberately. Ref blows whistle for free.
 McGeary looks to have thrown ball to Rory Canavan BTW. Hits two pointer.

Deegan explained referee has discretion of timing advantage and when whistle is blown play stops.

Harte complained about inconsistency.

Should be said Morgan abdicated responsibility for the two point free and McGeary mishandled then fluffed it.


gallsman

I thought McGeary threw the ball on the live angle as well. He was clearly appealing to McQuillan too. Anyone having a whine about that one needs to have a word with themself.

twohands!!!

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2025, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 13, 2025, 10:58:19 AMI asked it on the All Ireland thread yesterday but I'll ask again here as it's a more appropriate place.

Tyrone had an advantage late on yesterday. They scored a point when on the advantage due to a great block. They were then allowed to go back out for the free instead of taking the point. Is that allowed?

I thought the advantage was over if you scored. Are teams to be given a choice?

You are given the '5' second's regardless

Now there is some advantage thats given and it looks longer than 5 seconds



There's no time limit in relation to the advantage rule any more. That was done away with.

Quote2.13 When a Foul is committed,the Referee may allowthe play to continue ifthe Referee considers that this presents the potential of a goalscoring opportunity or another advantage to the team offended.
The Referee shall signal that advantage by raising an arm upright and shall allow the advantage to run by maintaining that armi n the upright position until it becomes clear that no advantage has accrued.

Ifthe referee deems that a clear advantage has accrued to the team offended,the advantage ends and the referee will indicate that by saying "advantage over", lowering their arm and allowing play to continue as normal.

If the referee deems that no advantage is accruing to the team offended, the referee will indicate that
by saying "no advantage gained" and will take the ball back to the point of the infraction.

If a player from the team offended commits a technical foul before they have accrued an advantage,the
referee will stop play and apply the penalty for the first infringement.

If a player from the team offended commits an aggressive foul before they have accrued an advantage,the
referee will apply the penalty for that subsequent aggressive foul.

If a player from the team which has committed the foul commits another foul when the advantage is ongoing, the free will be awarded from the more favourable position to the team offended of the location of the two fouls.

Advantage shall not be applied if the referee suspects that a player is seriously injured.

The referee shall apply all other relevant disciplinary action even when advantage is being allowed


If McQuillan reckoned McGeary threw the ball then the correct procedure was followed in relation to the fouled team committing a technical foul while advantage was being played i.e. free given at the place the foul took place. Given the throw to Canavan took place before the 2nd Kerry foul looks like McQuillan got this spot on.

David McKeown

I was talking about the incident right at the end where there was an advantage awarded out the field and play continued Tyrone had a goal scoring chance but it was deflected up over the bar.  My understanding was that scoring the point ends the advantage and the point stood.  There was a similar incident in a Cork hurling match last year.

If the point doesn't end the advantage who determines which outcome is chosen?  Is it the referee, are the fouled team given a choice?
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Milltown Row2

No time limit but we can't keep the hand up forever so within 5 seconds the ref will make a decision based on the play..

I've yet to see an advantage given for anything longer bar the player making a mark from ball kicked into the 21 from outside the 45

Has anybody seen this applied for over 10 seconds?
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twohands!!!

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2025, 02:47:54 PMNo time limit but we can't keep the hand up forever so within 5 seconds the ref will make a decision based on the play..

I've yet to see an advantage given for anything longer bar the player making a mark from ball kicked into the 21 from outside the 45

Has anybody seen this applied for over 10 seconds?

I've seen it well over 10 seconds in multiple games especially when the play is in near the goals.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: twohands!!! on July 13, 2025, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2025, 02:47:54 PMNo time limit but we can't keep the hand up forever so within 5 seconds the ref will make a decision based on the play..

I've yet to see an advantage given for anything longer bar the player making a mark from ball kicked into the 21 from outside the 45

Has anybody seen this applied for over 10 seconds?

I've seen it well over 10 seconds in multiple games especially when the play is in near the goals.

I haven't unless like I said it was the 'mark'

And it states goal scoring opportunity, can I apply that from defensive area, unlimited time?
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Smokin Joe

Quote from: David McKeown on July 13, 2025, 02:47:48 PMI was talking about the incident right at the end where there was an advantage awarded out the field and play continued Tyrone had a goal scoring chance but it was deflected up over the bar.  My understanding was that scoring the point ends the advantage and the point stood.  There was a similar incident in a Cork hurling match last year.

If the point doesn't end the advantage who determines which outcome is chosen?  Is it the referee, are the fouled team given a choice?

McQuillan was wrong on this.  The point was the advantage, it shouldn't have been brought back for the 2 pointed free attempt.  I guess the game scoreline is what influenced his decision.

The Trap

Hopefully refs all round the country take their lead from how games are reffed in croke park and don't ruin club games!
No stupid 50 metre penalties (havent seen any this weekend despite a few players and managers questioning decisions and players not getting out of the way immediately)
No soft black cards. There could have been a couple this weekend that haven't been given which is great as they have such a big impact.
Maybe that's the start of the repealing of some of the new rules. That would be great.

The Trap

2 days in a row you could have left with 15 mins to go but what a great sport we now have.
Last years semi finals and final were much better sporting contests.
Now Kerry and Donegal were excellent but these one sided contests are poor to watch.

Saffron_sam20

Quote from: The Trap on July 13, 2025, 05:27:29 PM2 days in a row you could have left with 15 mins to go but what a great sport we now have.
Last years semi finals and final were much better sporting contests.
Now Kerry and Donegal were excellent but these one sided contests are poor to watch.

People really confuse high scoring with high quality. It's just field basketball not