Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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gallsman

Good fight, Saunders did way better than expected but there was no way he was winning that fight with four to go after what had just happened.

I suppose all the hard men on this thread will be out for blood again over a guy with a broken face retiring on his stool.

JimStynes

Great to see as he is one horrible man

Tony Baloney

Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 08:42:39 AM
Great to see as he is one horrible man
Yes couldn't have happened to a nicer chap.

nrico2006

A bit embarrassing for Saunders given how he ripped Dubois out when he lost against Joyce.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

JimStynes

He's just a horrible person and his wee lad is a cheeky wee f**ker too. Canelo is something else all the same. Can't see who can beat him atm. Although I did lose a bit of respect for not fighting GGG in his prime.

nrico2006

Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 02:22:35 PM
He's just a horrible person and his wee lad is a cheeky wee f**ker too. Canelo is something else all the same. Can't see who can beat him atm. Although I did lose a bit of respect for not fighting GGG in his prime.

Aye, he lost the first GGG fight for definite though. He is brilliant but has picked his opponents well too, would love to see him fight a Charlo, Andrade or Betterbiev. Those 3 would ask questions of him.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

JimStynes

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 09, 2021, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 02:22:35 PM
He's just a horrible person and his wee lad is a cheeky wee f**ker too. Canelo is something else all the same. Can't see who can beat him atm. Although I did lose a bit of respect for not fighting GGG in his prime.

Aye, he lost the first GGG fight for definite though. He is brilliant but has picked his opponents well too, would love to see him fight a Charlo, Andrade or Betterbiev. Those 3 would ask questions of him.

He possibly lost both fights against GGG. He picked Mayweather and got totally schooled. I don't believe he would have beaten Mayweather at 152 catchweight at any time of his career either. Mayweather is too slick.  I don't know enough about the 3 you've mentioned apart from Charlo. I don't think he stands a chance against him either.

JoG2

Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 09, 2021, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 02:22:35 PM
He's just a horrible person and his wee lad is a cheeky wee f**ker too. Canelo is something else all the same. Can't see who can beat him atm. Although I did lose a bit of respect for not fighting GGG in his prime.

Aye, he lost the first GGG fight for definite though. He is brilliant but has picked his opponents well too, would love to see him fight a Charlo, Andrade or Betterbiev. Those 3 would ask questions of him.

He possibly lost both fights against GGG. He picked Mayweather and got totally schooled. I don't believe he would have beaten Mayweather at 152 catchweight at any time of his career either. Mayweather is too slick.  I don't know enough about the 3 you've mentioned apart from Charlo. I don't think he stands a chance against him either.

GGG won both those fights in imo. Re Mayweather, incredible boxer, one of the best, but for the likes of Hatton, Canelo etc to have stood a chance, they needed a ref to allow them to box on the inside, not break them apart continuously

nrico2006

Quote from: JoG2 on May 09, 2021, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 09, 2021, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 02:22:35 PM
He's just a horrible person and his wee lad is a cheeky wee f**ker too. Canelo is something else all the same. Can't see who can beat him atm. Although I did lose a bit of respect for not fighting GGG in his prime.

Aye, he lost the first GGG fight for definite though. He is brilliant but has picked his opponents well too, would love to see him fight a Charlo, Andrade or Betterbiev. Those 3 would ask questions of him.

He possibly lost both fights against GGG. He picked Mayweather and got totally schooled. I don't believe he would have beaten Mayweather at 152 catchweight at any time of his career either. Mayweather is too slick.  I don't know enough about the 3 you've mentioned apart from Charlo. I don't think he stands a chance against him either.

GGG won both those fights in imo. Re Mayweather, incredible boxer, one of the best, but for the likes of Hatton, Canelo etc to have stood a chance, they needed a ref to allow them to box on the inside, not break them apart continuously

You're in trouble if you rely on the ref though. Canelo was just too young/inexperienced against Mayweather.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

gallsman

Canelo dominates both Charlos and Andrade no problem, especially as he calls the shots and any fight with any of them would almost certainly be at 168. Beterbiev might ask questions because of the size, but we all thought that about Kovalev before Kovalev couldn't do anything against him and then got KOed silly.

nrico2006

Quote from: gallsman on May 09, 2021, 04:56:35 PM
Canelo dominates both Charlos and Andrade no problem, especially as he calls the shots and any fight with any of them would almost certainly be at 168. Beterbiev might ask questions because of the size, but we all thought that about Kovalev before Kovalev couldn't do anything against him and then got KOed silly.

You're right about the weight, he won't go down to 160 or entertain a catchweight, they would have to come up.  Betterbiev looks good but hasn't thought that many top level fighters and is no spring chicken, yet he doesn't appear to be on the slide in the way that Kovalev was hence why Canelo cherry picked as the weakest champion at 175.

'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

gallsman

Kovalev was the weakest champion and was cherry picked? Nonsense. An utter fabrication. His age isn't Canelo's fault. Beterbiev had fought nobody. Lots of people, you included, were crying here about how Kovalev was robbed against Ward.

Criticise Canelo for the steroids, sure, but he fights regularly and he fights everyone.

nrico2006

Quote from: gallsman on May 10, 2021, 07:31:42 AM
Kovalev was the weakest champion and was cherry picked? Nonsense. An utter fabrication. His age isn't Canelo's fault. Beterbiev had fought nobody. Lots of people, you included, were crying here about how Kovalev was robbed against Ward.

Criticise Canelo for the steroids, sure, but he fights regularly and he fights everyone.

Kovalev was regarded as being behind both Beterbiev and Bivol at the time of the Canelo fight, with those two holding the other belts.  Kovalev had definitely been on the slide with losses to Alvarez and struggling against Yarde in the fights previous to Canelo.  As for Kovalez being robbed against Ward, the stoppage in the second fight was a disgrace.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 09, 2021, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 09, 2021, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 09, 2021, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 09, 2021, 02:22:35 PM
He's just a horrible person and his wee lad is a cheeky wee f**ker too. Canelo is something else all the same. Can't see who can beat him atm. Although I did lose a bit of respect for not fighting GGG in his prime.

Aye, he lost the first GGG fight for definite though. He is brilliant but has picked his opponents well too, would love to see him fight a Charlo, Andrade or Betterbiev. Those 3 would ask questions of him.

He possibly lost both fights against GGG. He picked Mayweather and got totally schooled. I don't believe he would have beaten Mayweather at 152 catchweight at any time of his career either. Mayweather is too slick.  I don't know enough about the 3 you've mentioned apart from Charlo. I don't think he stands a chance against him either.

GGG won both those fights in imo. Re Mayweather, incredible boxer, one of the best, but for the likes of Hatton, Canelo etc to have stood a chance, they needed a ref to allow them to box on the inside, not break them apart continuously

You're in trouble if you rely on the ref though. Canelo was just too young/inexperienced against Mayweather.

The genius of Floyd, he knew exactly what Canelo would become.....got him on the CV early.

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 10, 2021, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: gallsman on May 10, 2021, 07:31:42 AM
Kovalev was the weakest champion and was cherry picked? Nonsense. An utter fabrication. His age isn't Canelo's fault. Beterbiev had fought nobody. Lots of people, you included, were crying here about how Kovalev was robbed against Ward.

Criticise Canelo for the steroids, sure, but he fights regularly and he fights everyone.

Kovalev was regarded as being behind both Beterbiev and Bivol at the time of the Canelo fight, with those two holding the other belts.  Kovalev had definitely been on the slide with losses to Alvarez and struggling against Yarde in the fights previous to Canelo.  As for Kovalez being robbed against Ward, the stoppage in the second fight was a disgrace.

He was in your hole behind the two of them. He completely dominated Alvarez up to the point of getting caught and then completely dominated him in the rematch to run by UD. Beterbiev has fought nobody. Bivol's best win is over Jean Pascal ffs. Who Kovalev best inside the distance twice. Yards had two good rounds out of ten and a bit against him

The Canelo fight was a shock when it was announced as nobody had been thinking about him at 175 at all. There was absolutely no suggestion at all of Kovalev being a soft target or that need been purposefully picked to avoid either of the other two.