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El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« on: May 14, 2019, 09:42:55 AM »
Has there ever been a more low key build up to the greatest Derby in the game?

Mickey Graham has said all year it is all about championship. Gearoid McKiernan is back fit and going well. However Cavan dont have high scoring forwards if the league is anything to go by.

Monaghan missing a few but they have McManus and some able support from elsewhere and that has been the difference in previous meetings.

Freetakers would be in Monaghans favour too with Cavans efforts in the league on that front really poor.

Bookies have it 2/1 Cavan and 1/2 Monaghan

It will be close but it is surely time for normal service to resume and the Ulster Kingpins to reassert themselves as top dogs.

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2019, 11:00:56 AM »
Should be an indicator of Cavan progress under the new management regime
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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2019, 02:02:20 PM »
Has there ever been a more low key build up to the greatest Derby in the game?

Mickey Graham has said all year it is all about championship. Gearoid McKiernan is back fit and going well. However Cavan dont have high scoring forwards if the league is anything to go by.

Monaghan missing a few but they have McManus and some able support from elsewhere and that has been the difference in previous meetings.

Freetakers would be in Monaghans favour too with Cavans efforts in the league on that front really poor.

Bookies have it 2/1 Cavan and 1/2 Monaghan

It will be close but it is surely time for normal service to resume and the Ulster Kingpins to reassert themselves as top dogs.

Could make the difference and will likely be Cavan's top scorer on the day. Recent games have been close and will be a surprise if this game isn't. Does this game get live or deferred coverage on BBC?
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 02:03:53 PM by Blowitupref »
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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2019, 03:20:18 PM »
Has there ever been a more low key build up to the greatest Derby in the game?

Mickey Graham has said all year it is all about championship. Gearoid McKiernan is back fit and going well. However Cavan dont have high scoring forwards if the league is anything to go by.

Monaghan missing a few but they have McManus and some able support from elsewhere and that has been the difference in previous meetings.

Freetakers would be in Monaghans favour too with Cavans efforts in the league on that front really poor.

Bookies have it 2/1 Cavan and 1/2 Monaghan

It will be close but it is surely time for normal service to resume and the Ulster Kingpins to reassert themselves as top dogs.

Could make the difference and will likely be Cavan's top scorer on the day. Recent games have been close and will be a surprise if this game isn't. Does this game get live or deferred coverage on BBC?

Not sure about BBC but it is live on SKY

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2019, 03:32:54 PM »
Cavan are teh weirdest team in Ulster no doubt about it. Have miles more history than anyone else but it all fell off a cliff for them a long time ago. It's strange because when I'm in Cavan (a lot) they're pure football mad, and the county is important to them not like what we hear about Derry where it's club above all else. They've plenty of players that are good enough too. I think probably the yoyo from D1 and D2 is about right for where they should be, but you'd love to see them really lay down a marker and get a win over one of the big sides. It's only a few years since they got a draw with Tyrone in a semi final, maybe ad they won that day they'd have drove on. Hopefully they do a job on Monaghan this year.

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2019, 03:40:10 PM »
No more than ourselves when Cavan were kingpins the population was up around 90,000.
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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2019, 03:56:01 PM »
No more than ourselves when Cavan were kingpins the population was up around 90,000.
The creation of Northern Ireland made Cavan. It was a  shock to GAA people in the 6 counties and took them 50 years to get over it .
Cavan won 5 all Irelands because it was so easy to get out of Ulster. They could build teams easily because there was no predator. They developed some fabulous talent.
 Down won an all Ireland and that was effectively the end of Cavan's great run
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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2019, 04:19:12 PM »
No more than ourselves when Cavan were kingpins the population was up around 90,000.
The creation of Northern Ireland made Cavan. It was a  shock to GAA people in the 6 counties and took them 50 years to get over it .
Cavan won 5 all Irelands because it was so easy to get out of Ulster. They could build teams easily because there was no predator. They developed some fabulous talent.
 Down won an all Ireland and that was effectively the end of Cavan's great run

When down won 3 sams in the 60s they shared all the Ulsters of that decade with cavan. Indeed cavan gave them a beating or two back then but never won Sam. So your point doesn't fully stack up. Mind you I could also argue that Galway would've won feck all too if they weren't in a province with only 2 teams and occasionally 3  nor Kerry where they only had to beat 1 team.

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2019, 04:37:25 PM »
No more than ourselves when Cavan were kingpins the population was up around 90,000.
The creation of Northern Ireland made Cavan. It was a  shock to GAA people in the 6 counties and took them 50 years to get over it .
Cavan won 5 all Irelands because it was so easy to get out of Ulster. They could build teams easily because there was no predator. They developed some fabulous talent.
 Down won an all Ireland and that was effectively the end of Cavan's great run

When down won 3 sams in the 60s they shared all the Ulsters of that decade with cavan. Indeed cavan gave them a beating or two back then but never won Sam. So your point doesn't fully stack up. Mind you I could also argue that Galway would've won feck all too if they weren't in a province with only 2 teams and occasionally 3  nor Kerry where they only had to beat 1 team.

Cavan didn't win any all Irelands afterwards.
They didn't win Ulster in the 70s or 80s at all at all
So the momentum broke down

But depopulation was also a factor in fairness 
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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2019, 04:39:03 PM »
Seafoid you favour Down and hold great knowledge of our illustrious periods. Have you Down in your blood?

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2019, 04:44:13 PM »
Seanie Johnston?


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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2019, 05:19:58 PM »
No more than ourselves when Cavan were kingpins the population was up around 90,000.
The creation of Northern Ireland made Cavan. It was a  shock to GAA people in the 6 counties and took them 50 years to get over it .
Cavan won 5 all Irelands because it was so easy to get out of Ulster. They could build teams easily because there was no predator. They developed some fabulous talent.
 Down won an all Ireland and that was effectively the end of Cavan's great run

When down won 3 sams in the 60s they shared all the Ulsters of that decade with cavan. Indeed cavan gave them a beating or two back then but never won Sam. So your point doesn't fully stack up. Mind you I could also argue that Galway would've won feck all too if they weren't in a province with only 2 teams and occasionally 3  nor Kerry where they only had to beat 1 team.

Cavan didn't win any all Irelands afterwards.
They didn't win Ulster in the 70s or 80s at all at all
So the momentum broke down

But depopulation was also a factor in fairness

I am aware of the history of cavan gaa lad.

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2019, 05:20:54 PM »
Seanie Johnston?

He kicked 4-11 for club last weekend and will be starting against Monaghan.

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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2019, 05:41:51 PM »
No more than ourselves when Cavan were kingpins the population was up around 90,000.

There were Less people living in Cavan when they last won an all Ireland than there is today according to whatever I looked up there
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Re: El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2019, 09:57:34 PM »
We'll be lucky to have 15 for Saturday evening they are falling like flies in Monaghan.